AR - Josh Duggar Admits Molesting Girls As A Teenager - #3

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  1. Margo/Mom

    Margo/Mom New Member

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    Well, one can hope that his wife will get tired of being on the bottom.

    Not certain that I buy into the whole addiction thing with regard to JD. I see his behavior as being part of a pretty vast dysfunctional system. Talking one game, living another. And this seems to be something of a pattern with fundies in the public eye, perhaps in direct proportion to how much one's income (from TV, appearances, right-wing values orgs and whatnot) depends on presenting a particular outward image.

    But one thing that I do borrow from the addiction literature with regard to diagnostics has to do with whether the particular behavior is creating problems in one's life. JD's behaviors have cost him one or two jobs (I think he was let go from a campaign before FRC due to computer porn in the office issues). According to one claim his extramarital sex was unprotected--putting him and his wife at risk for a variety of diseases. Even if his wife decides to stand by him, it would be difficult to imagine that their relationship has not been impacted.

    This is all just sorta diagnostics 101 that someone ought to be running through with him. And I don't see anything in the RU lit to lead me to believe that they have any staff competent (let alone licensed) to do that kind of diagnostics. It would appear as though all their clientele are self-diagnosed--and they kinda claim to be of the "good for what ails ya" mindset.

    But then, I do believe that what they offer is attractive to folks who are terrified of what they might have to admit/give up if they were to open themselves to honest self-examination.
     
  2. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    For me the affair is not the biggest problem we have here. I know many people whose marriages have survived affairs and are even better after because those people realize how much they love each other... But that is not what we have here.
    We have some one who was actively seeking an affair on a website and spending thousands to do it.
    Maybe to some it seems no different but for me a spouse falling into an affair with a person they know and going online searching for one is a different thing.

    I feel bad for Anna who was most likely no doubt pushed into this marriage knowing that he had molested kids.
    I feel bad because she has no idea what life is really like or what her options are and is walled off by crazy people.
    Even the bible says that affairs are cause for biblical divorce. So people should be giving her those options.
    But I feel like she is most likely being told to hang in there to see what happens yet again.
    I think Josh Duggar has some real issues. Not just the religious ones but issues and they only way he is going to get help is by a team of clinical experts.
    I hope he is getting that.
    I have no problem with christian counselors if they are truly certified.

    The problem is that the bible does not say to bow without question. And it does not ever mean for people to be a doormat for the bad behavior of others. Submitting comes only when people are in biblical alignment and equally yoked.
    That is not what this is.

    I hope that he gets help real help and can some how help his family heal from this, But I just don't know anymore.
     
  3. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    IMO... You make some good points here...

    Josh doesn't really think he's done anything wrong... He is just "sorry" he got busted...

    Additionally... I have to admit that if he was truly wishing to "recover"...the organization he is presently in offers no real accountability in the therapy process...

    I would imagine... And this just IMO... He still has access to a myriad of tech devices that could keep him entrenched in his continuing pursuits...

    I do not believe the "administration" at this organization would keep him accountable... As it would shut off their funds that come with other "potential high profile and/or high moneyed clientele"...

    This "therapy" is just a band-aid... And what Josh and his parents think is good PR... For a most disturbing behavior... That I do not see as stopping ever...

    The fact that he molested children (pedophile)

    And that it seems he has a great deal of anger wrapped up in his sexuality...(if the "escort's" story is true.... In fact I think the anger is based in his frustration of his dad and mom's relationship...IMO...)....

    These indicate to me that he is one sick $@&$...

    And that he really has no desire... Nor mental make-up... To change this chain of events...

    Furthermore... I will NOT be surprised if/when new revelations about similar behaviors on the part of Josh appears...

    And I won't be surprised if these deviant behaviors continue to his dying days...

    All... JMO..
     
  4. Doghairrules

    Doghairrules Well-Known Member

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    So now I'm curious. Say more?


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  5. human

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    O/t. Many many takes of the surprise. All materials and work donated by those who worked for no money or compensation. Worked for hours and hours.

    The TV crew would come in and be shown pounding one nail, for instance.

    The family got the home and curtains, etc all because of friends and neighbors who worked like maniacs.

    If I recall, the trip was a loser, too, but don't recall the details of it.

    It was good for a deserving family. Some families could not afford the homes that were built for them. Our neighbor builder knew that so they built an affordable home
     
  6. Montjoy

    Montjoy Inactive

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    rsbm --

    Reminds me of this report on a food drive in which the Duggars participated:

    "The source says one of the Duggar sons put a box of food in the Martinez family car — but once cameras stopped rolling, it was taken back and returned to the Duggars."

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/...on-for-the-19-kids-and-counting-cameras-57456
     
  7. Doghairrules

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    Slightly o/t, but I can't resist. The duggar pastor is quoted about infidelity in the article below. I sent the quote to my brother, a southern baptist pastor, and told him this is why people are leaving the church in droves (including me). Ronnie Floyd is somehow the president of the southern baptist convention.

    According to my brother, this quote is mild compared to most of what comes out of this man's mouth. Sigh.
    http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20947353,00.html


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  8. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/bi...s-not-a-porn-addiction-dude-youre-just-horny/


    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/jessa-duggar-boycott-josh-duggar-cheating-scandal-68589

    Not really sure all of the commenters were fans like the headline says though, some could be just mad :p


    http://www.etonline.com/news/170875...ains_their_process_our_prayers_are_with_them/

    Whaa...? Family therapy? As in sessions with a family therapist? With what qualifications?

    Reading the Bible together with the family is not family therapy.

    So basically he's going to be telling them that if it's good it's good. If you love and respect your partner you're going to have amazing sex, and reading the Bible makes it so. (As if the Duggars don't read the Bible enough...)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-how-many-chances-can-you-get-on-reality-tv/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...s-speak-anger-hurt-wake-cheating-scandal.html

    Cousin Amy maybe? Talking about spending Christmases so it could be someone from the extended family living elsewhere but of the same generation, and the happy time reference could be to her wedding.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/08/26/duggar-family-19-kids-and-no-money-to-count/
    http://pagesix.com/2015/08/28/inside-josh-duggars-rehab-facility/
    Gosh I wonder what they'd do, if they were NOT encouraging communication with family...
     
  9. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    This is a blog source and I can't confirm but it would figure:

    Breaking: Leadership of Josh Duggar’s Treatment Center Allegedly Involved in Sex Abuse Coverup - See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejo...n-sex-abuse-coverup.html#sthash.uxjHk6bO.dpuf

    https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/du...ting-sexual-predator-from-prosecution-report/
     
  10. T4Tide

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    While I do agree with *some* of his points, I completely disagree with the statement of men and woman seeking sexual needs outside marriage.

    The majority of adulterous men seek physical affection outside of a relationship. The majority of adulterous woman are seeking for an emotional need to be met. Sex doesn't keep people from straying. Physical touch combined with love, understanding, provision, compassion, respect, and trust promotes faithfulness.

    Love is when my husband is interested, and I tell him I'm exhausted from holding and breastfeeding the baby all day and I just need a couple of hours where my body just belongs to me and he respects that.

    Commitment is when he waits until I'm ready to reciprocate.
     
  11. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Of course. Pointless place to go anyway. This is all about Josh appearing to reform so everyone can return to the way things were before his actions blew the Duggars' squeaky clean image apart.

    Give it up Duggars, just give it up already.
     
  12. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same behavior over and over and expecting different results.
     
  13. Margo/Mom

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    From the blog:
    The Duggars have made a career out of bottling up their children’s sexual energies, keeping them set on zero until marriage and then unleashing them, but most of what they teach is common in fundamentalist churches. Women are expected to dress modestly so as not to give men the wrong idea, and sexual assault victims are asked what they did to lead their abuser on or cause their assault.*When married men*have affairs, their wives are blamed for not being sexually available enough to keep them at home.
     
  14. Inthedetails

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    This feels like a punch in the gut to read this.

    JMO.
     
  15. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Duggars haven't successfully bottled up their children's sexual energies, at least when it comes to Josh.
    They claim Josh was a little too curious about sex (which led to him molesting his sisters). Sounds like he still is (which led to him cheating on his wife and viewing porn).
     
  16. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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  17. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    Just think guys .. Josh is just the oldest boy .. There's probably plenty more of these 'issues' to come up.

    Repression always backfires.
     
  18. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    I can't help but thinking...


    Where did Josh learn these behaviors?

    :waitasec:
     
  19. Wyle_E_Coyote

    Wyle_E_Coyote Well-Known Member

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    We have much to look forward to!

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  20. blue22

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    I think absolute rule and condemnation over certain behaviors, breeds the opposite behavior. With that said, I think the molesting is a whole different issue. People don't always learn that.
     
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