Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

[tlcya]

we ES sure couldn't make sure he followed her orders to stop driving with the kids drunk, or leaving them locked in the so her odds of supervising him to follow the court's order during his pretrial phase are slim to non IMO MOO

 

[Normancita]

someone, please make this makes sense.

He is irresponsible and a drunk. He drives under the influence with children in his care. He even tried to persuade his children to lie to the court. Hasn’t he been charged with domestic violence? How was he able to stay in the same home as his victims?

How is this permitted?

 

[KMouse]

What a joke. What a disservice to the children in that home and the child that died. They are in danger as well as being subjected to witness tampering.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I know his wife is a doctor, and good ones are hard to find, and hospitals are struggling with staffing, etc. but the system seems to be going out of their way for him. And I do agree with those who think the rest of his family would be safer and better off mentally with him not there. Any verfied legal experts have an opinion about this hearing? IMO.

 

[Herat]

ES is certainly not a neutral party.

She has a degree of culpability in his deliberate homicidal negligence. She should NOT be making decisions about his behaviors or compliance.

This is the prosecution of his actions that caused a death. She should be staying out of it and if the judge decides he should not be incarcerated at this time, then he should be in a different domicile with supervision of his compliance.

Leaving him in that home is the preamble to a mistrial and big problems in prosecution of his case,

 

[MsMarple]

I’m surprised Child Services didn’t remove the children from the home. Not that I believe the mother is abusing them but she did allow ongoing abuse by the father. It’s shocking she knew he was driving drunk with them in the car!

Does the judge actually believe CS is going to refrain from drinking until his next hearings? Silly judge. Even if he drives while drunk without any passengers he’s still a danger to other drivers. How is his wife going to make sure he doesn’t stop off at a bar or pick up some booze while he’s out of the house? An alcoholic can be pretty sneaky.

How the heck is the pretrial services officer able to overlook what we here see so clearly? How can the judge ignore the facts? Mother may be a doctor but IMO neither parent behaved in the children’s best interests and shouldn’t be granted special treatment.
All MOO

 

[Herat]

I know his wife is a doctor, and good ones are hard to find, and hospitals are struggling with staffing, etc. but the system seems to be going out of their way for him. And I do agree with those who think the rest of his family would be safer and better off mentally with him not there. Any verfied legal experts have an opinion about this hearing? IMO.

Being a doctor should not give her any higher dispensation to shield him from justice or force her daughters to be biased witnesses.

She is not a primary care physician. She is an anesthesiologist and there is not a shortage of them. If anything, she may be in an inappropriate setting in half-treating her husband’s alcoholism and preventing him to get the specific independent physical and mental health care he needs.

 

[Herat]

I wonder if he even has a primary care physician at age 37. She may be taking care of his medical needs for incidental issues like antibiotics for infections, pain relievers ( could be a huge red flag) anti-anxiety meds or sleeping aids.

He should have had full drug and alcohol testing when arrested. Those results should be available by now and the judge and prosecution should have them.

 

[Normancita]

2min 15sec arraignment

Maybe it’s just me, but walking with both hands in pockets is giving off a vibe of disinterest and detachment.

 

[NuttMegg]

Maybe it’s just me, but walking with both hands in pockets is giving off a vibe of disinterest and detachment.

Wow he looks different. I thought he was a lawyer. And the judge was so....pert....and cheerful.

 

[MsMarple]

Here’s video of a KVOA reporter asking CS questions after the arraignment. No response.

His wife isn’t present but it’s unclear as to whether she attended the hearing, maybe we’ll learn more later.

I’m posting the link from X, I hope I don’t screw it up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821661114457108720

 

[AislingGray18]

The judge confirmed that CM has been in touch with “pre trial services”. Not familiar with that— is it like a probation officer to make sure he is compliant with the conditions?

it's a phone call once a week that lasts ten seconds. For everyone else it is evidence and fact finding

 

[Herat]

It's like everyone is whitewashing this case. I'm disgusted.

There is a HUGE secondary gain here in mollifying the death of the child and really keeping CS away from the impression that he is a criminal.

It's the issue of possible negligence on ES's part contributing to the death.

Keeping him completely under wraps and hiding all activities or visits from public view tries to pose this as an accident, one that she did not have control over. If she is charged and found guilty of any contributing child negligence or abuse, she would probably lose her medical license and her ability to practice medicine. Keeping him all wrapped up decreases the initiative to consider them as separate individuals who BOTH contributed to the death of the child.

I think that's what's going on here and it's reprehensible. Freaking cynical ploy that puts the other two little girls at risk of whatever interactions their parents are having.

 

[Henry2326]

Here’s video of a KVOA reporter asking CS questions after the arraignment. No response.

His wife isn’t present but it’s unclear as to whether she attended the hearing, maybe we’ll learn more later.

I’m posting the link from X, I hope I don’t screw it up.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821661114457108720

LOL....Attorney only confirms his name. I'm surprised he didn't spell it.

 

[Herat]

LOL....Attorney only confirms his name. I surprised he didn't spell it.

This already stinks of a plea bargain.

 

[Henry2326]

This already stinks of a plea bargain.

It's definitely his best option.

 

[Camva]

It's like everyone is whitewashing this case. I'm disgusted.

There is a HUGE secondary gain here in mollifying the death of the child and really keeping CS away from the impression that he is a criminal.

It's the issue of possible negligence on ES's part contributing to the death.

Keeping him completely under wraps and hiding all activities or visits from public view tries to pose this as an accident, one that she did not have control over. If she is charged and found guilty of any contributing child negligence or abuse, she would probably lose her medical license and her ability to practice medicine. Keeping him all wrapped up decreases the initiative to consider them as separate individuals who BOTH contributed to the death of the child.

I think that's what's going on here and it's reprehensible. Freaking cynical ploy that puts the other two little girls at risk of whatever interactions their parents are having.

Reprehensible. Perfect word choice all the way around.

 

[Arkay]

I’m surprised Child Services didn’t remove the children from the home. Not that I believe the mother is abusing them but she did allow ongoing abuse by the father. It’s shocking she knew he was driving drunk with them in the car!

Does the judge actually believe CS is going to refrain from drinking until his next hearings? Silly judge. Even if he drives while drunk without any passengers he’s still a danger to other drivers. How is his wife going to make sure he doesn’t stop off at a bar or pick up some booze while he’s out of the house? An alcoholic can be pretty sneaky.

How the heck is the pretrial services officer able to overlook what we here see so clearly? How can the judge ignore the facts? Mother may be a doctor but IMO neither parent behaved in the children’s best interests and shouldn’t be granted special treatment.
All MOO

It is simply unfathomable to me.

His reckless indifference to his child’s well-being led directly to her needless death. A slow and painful death, suffered by a two-year old who had no context for why she was feeling unwell at first. No context to grasp that the man who should have protected her instead willfully placed her in this furnace.

I grant that the mother has lost a child and is grieving. Yet I am completely flummoxed as to how her messages to CS, which absolutely disclose that she had knowledge of his child abuse, have gained ground with the judge in going so lightly on him.

Furthermore, I cannot conceive of how the mother is not partially culpable, as she has proven that she was aware of his speeding, drinking, and imprisoning and abandoning her own children and stepdaughter in cars.

My own flabbergasted opinion.

 

[Kittybunny]

GUYS…NO…
I’m in Florida now dealing with my very ill and crippled mom in memory care, and my dad who is still in his home but needs help…I’ve just now had the chance to go online and see here that they did NOT remand CS!
No!! NO!
I don’t have the time right now to look it up or watch any news, so I’m just learning this now from all you wonderful posters…I am astonished…HOW could they allow this “father” to go back home???

Just my very angry and bewildered opinion.

Totally agree Arkay. Also, sending you strength for what must be a very difficult time for you right now.

 

[Kittybunny]

2min 15sec arraignment

Thank you for posting that video, at the very beginning the judge establishes who is there, and then asks whether The State will be making statements or asks, and they declined. I am not a lawyer, but, should it have been on the prosecution to request that he be taken into custody? They totally dropped the ball!