Armchair Psych Profile and Treatment

Discussion in 'Movie Theater Massacre in Colorado' started by JBean, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Someone who can't deal with any type of failure does not belong in science.
    Experiments fail all the time. Grants are difficult to obtain, so someone in this field absolutely has to be able to deal with failure.
     


  2. February

    February Member

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    I agree...

    so scientific... can someone try to understand and explain this?


    Effective transferability to mESCs questionable
    Application or Technique: Neural Stem Cell Differentiation
    Cell Start attempted to be used in place of MEF feeder layer to maintain mESCs. Attached and grew on substrate. After applying multiple neural stem cell differentiation protocols, cells were not Sox1 GFP+ (neuronal stem cell marker). Suggests MEF provides some yet unknown factors in mESC maintenance not seen in Cell Start.
    Date: May 10, 2012
    Reviewer:
    James Holmes
    Institution:
    UC Denve
     
  3. Grasshopper

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    I think it may be significant if it is related to the presentation that he was scheduled to make on May 8 regarding the Micro RNA Biomarkers. Are the two related? I have no idea. Maybe someone else does know and can enlighten us. It may as well be another language to this girl.

    Also, it has been reported that the graduate students in the program were expected to navigate through three three-month rotations with different professors.

    There is also the component of "failure" by someone who just isn't accustomed to it, which has been eloquently mentioned many times on this board.

    Source: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/07/22/holmes-gun-club-membership-rejected-over-bizarre-behavior/
     
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    carson456 New Member

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    From his actions, it's clear he was very maladapted.
     
  5. zvzvzv

    zvzvzv New Member

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    the original poster did explain in:
    "I've asked a friend to basically tell me what he means and, basically, what he says is that the review means that the specific research project failed. And, he added, that a project like this would have been a major project and would have been a major blow to JH since it meant months of tedious work and research for naught, basically. I have no idea. I don't understand most of it."
    the interesting part to us is that we can see how he writes,
    and details of the research he was involved in.
    very beneficial stuff for web sleuthing.
     
  6. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Rotation is where they are supposed to decide whose laboratory they want to be in. So if an experiment didn't work during this time it wouldn't be a big deal. The students are mostly learning during this time.
    If he was close to graduating and none of his experiments worked it would be another story. But at this stage it shouldn't have had any effect.
     
  7. February

    February Member

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    :welcome:
    Thank you for your post and new informations for us.
    Feel free to post what you feel is right :seeya:
    Dont be nervous.
    Your first post is actually so important for some of us now.

    :seeya:
     
  8. February

    February Member

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    Yes specially this was posted May 10, 2012 which could be one of the very important dates prior to his gun shopping and etc..
     
  9. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Don't know if this is accurate, but supposedly Loughner is going to plead guilty.
    If Lougner is competent, no one is going to convince me JH isn't. I mean, look at Lougner's photo.

    "Jared Loughner, the man accused of shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killing six others, will plead guilty Tuesday, a source familiar with the deal told Fox News."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/0...-giffords-shooting-report-says/#ixzz22dEpeI1S
     
  10. DeadCat

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    Ugh! I don't want to go back into that Handbook, but either there or on the webpage, it said that the dept. schedules classes in the mornings so students will have their afternoons to work in the labs. I think they were involved in research very early on in this particular program. (And I keep wondering if he was testing anything on himself...or had volunteered for someone else's study, but that's all conjecture...)
     
  11. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Even if they were involved in research very early, at this stage a failure of research project wouldn't affect anything, because he would have barely picked an advisor. He would have years ahead of him to get research projects going and working. And they shouldn't be testing anything on themselves. Human research is strictly regulated.
     
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    Wow. Is that normal procedure? Six? :thud:
     
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    Welcome! :seeya:


    I have no idea what his review means. Can someone explain it for those of us who didn't excel in science.:blushing:
     
  14. DeadCat

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    Of course they shouldn't. Just like doctors shouldn't be giving out pills to family and friends and students shouldn't buy guns to shoot up movie theaters...
     
  15. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Not everything is some major conspiracy.
     
  16. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    well it seems Loughner is competent to plead in the GIfford case-so I don't think that will bode well for Mr. Holmes.
     
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    I guess for this case it is. 2 are FBI analysts, they want to know for future and past mass murderers and for this case, 2 for State, 2 for defense. The 2 for State and defense makes sense b/c both sides are going to use this for Court testimony, you know how arguing experts goes. Also, they need to be very, very certain they get it right.

    However, I don't know how JH perceives it. It may be great to him and add to his accomplishment in his mind = his infamy. It may just make him want to play games with them = say nothing, act like a child, act like he's is off the walls, that will just slow the process down, they will see through it. It may just make him angry and he says nothing.
     
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    Anyone come up with any motive for doing this at a movie theater?

    If he was angry with himself and school because he couldn't make it in the program, wouldn't the target be the school? Although he did make sure the school is a target via the notebook, just a secondary target.

    If there was a girlfriend and she was at the movie, we would have heard about that by now.

    Why a movie theater?
     
  19. ~n/t~

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    I asked that question from the very beginning. Some speculated that it was probably the easiest target considering he withdrew from his program and no longer had access to the University. Furthermore, it was premiere night and the theatre would be a full. Dark with unsuspecting victims. He may have an obsession with "batman". No security system in place.

    The big question is how did he know there would be no security? Had he staked out the theatre on previous nights? I guess this question should be asked on the other thread.
     
  20. DeadCat

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    I think the theater location is further evidence of MI. Due to it not being very logical/rational if he thought the uni was at fault. You know, I was wondering last night whether anything else tramatic could have happened to him in or near the crime-ridden area he lived in. (I had been reading an aurora police blotter and looking at a map and it did seem to have its share of drugs and violent crime incidents). Being quiet and nerdy, he could have been a perhaps easy victim of crime and maybe the first gun was for personal protection. Absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support this, but I was also thinking about motive and why he'd be mad at the whole world, if that was even the case.
     

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