Armchair Psych Profile and Treatment

Discussion in 'Movie Theater Massacre in Colorado' started by JBean, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. Liz

    Liz I am not a chemist and this is not my 1st rodeo

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    Good question, February!
    There is a possibility of both, I think! JMO MOO and all that jazz


    I think you might be mistaken, songline. Read Shadowraith's post #495 above and then mine, #497.

    Sorry Shadow, didn't mean to step on your toes. I post like at turtle-neck speed rather than break-neck speed. ;)
     


  2. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    Haven't seen the series but have long been interested in chaos theory, specifically the strides made by Edward Lorenz and his Lorenz Attractor ( link ). Though, chaos theory isn't exactly about time travel, per se. Rather, it's about predictive capabilities based upon pattern recognition. The latter being another of my hobbies.

    The butterfly effect movie, and probably the shows, too, appear to lean more towards elementary time travel concepts, while playing around with Lorenz's butterfly effect concept, to demonstrate how changing seemingly insignificant past events can result in unexpected future outcomes.
     
  3. rollinginit

    rollinginit Active Member

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    Somebody asked above why he didn't target the school instead of a theater.

    IMO, I think it's bc he couldn't get in the school. They dropped him and his access to that school quick.
     
  4. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    And? How would that stop him? He'd only not be able to get to restricted areas. There are plenty of areas that are not restricted. And even then, if he really wanted to, he'd be likely able to convince someone to open the doors for him.
     
  5. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

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    He still had access to all public areas and public buildings.
     
  6. February

    February Member

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    Yes! Ashton Kutchner time travelled in the past to change their past so their future will not be affected by it and while he was travelling in the past, he was playing a techno music
     
  7. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    Looks down at toes, wiggles them. No prob. They're fine. Mainly, cuz they weren't stepped on... well, c'ept by me when I walk. ^_~
     
  8. rollinginit

    rollinginit Active Member

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    Maybe?it was just me guessing that maybe shooting at that college would be hard. Summer and not as many people. Sounds like jh wanted an easy place.

    I know at my daughters school......there are only a few places I am allowed to go on campus. The parking lot and the main greeters center that has the cafe/lunch room in it. There are tons of security around her school. I was sitting out in the parking lot one day waiting on her. Security went around in their golf carts a few times and finally stopped to ask was I a student. They wanted to know why I was just sitting there.

    As always, just my 2 cents and opinion.:fence:
     
  9. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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  10. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    Appreciate yours as well sir or madam!!!!

    YES! She knew, it is not like unless you say I am going to go kill Otots at 5:32 AM on Friday XX XX XXXX that we don’t have the skills, the training, the whole deal to say my client is decomping, he is losing contact with reality, he is indicating a desire to harm. I find it in a way frustrating, this is complicated stuff BUT I would never worry about getting in trouble with asking for a duty to warn safety drive by.

    I just would not , I trust my clinical skills, and unlike so many here think that this is about locking people up it is not, it is at most 72 hours of a human being s life that is so out of control, so stressful so exhausting, THEY ARE PETRIFIED ; in his intelligence the biggest gift we could give them is a three day wind down (which often does not really do a whole lot - they system ($) just overdoses them to the point of near coma -- they crawl home, sit there getting over the doctor overdose, and it all starts again in about a month and a half or so
    Its criminal, it’s pathetic, it is wrong, -- when I started, years ago average time in the hospital was 30 45 days! We could get their meds right (or closer than now days $) and they could go back out not in a COMA and go for a bit
    would they end up back yep, but their quality of life in between placements, not being overdosed cause insurance does not want to pay for hospiilazation, was FAR better .

    They managed.

    It is sad, it is wrong, it is gross, and it will continue to happen more and more until this society realizes, that at the end of the day, humanely, this is real medical stuff, that it is better to pay the tab when you have them in a safe and secure environment, and can really tweak their meds wherein their side effects are minimized, increase the likelihood that they will take them.

    It is repulsive and wrong and there are hundreds of victims from July 20 that would concur here..... believe it or not , the lil;ihood of this occurring could have been markedly reduced if MI was not stigmatized, if it were not a blame deal, if it were recognized as a medical problem as opposed to some little whim of some prick who is hunting for a dash of attention or is angry etc.

    This is a mentally ill KID! Folks…………..He is sick…………..

    See the other day for proof (temple) – and this stuff is going to keep going until we as a society decide oh my we better really try to help these folks………

    . It is real, it is medical, it is neurotransmitters no different than diabetes, and until this society can grasp that well grab your bullet proof vests
    Whew I feel better now!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    Respectfully, you have got to me kidding me - I would love to know not being rude and I mean it it is so befuddling to me your resistance to the whole thing in its entirity is NOT joker batman delsioion mental stuff--- how do you like start there?

    Confuses me...... resistance there on your part , but what is the reason for the resistnace,

    Better question, why is it so out of your realm that this is totally batman joker etc?
     
  12. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    KDOGG

    YOUr a hoot!
     
  13. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    oh i pmed before I got to end !

    Your writing is awesome!

    the gangster movie last night for i played it it grossed me out!

    Bottom line -- are we ever gonna get to real documented stuff he said i said i did they did here is waht i saw felt etc or is this gag crap just gonna make this never knowing anything?
     
  14. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    the bigger part of that in my mind was when he said something akin to it is about what is going on INSIDE ones own head -- if that is not an awesome , quiet referecne to delsionial thinking not sure what else could be!
     
  15. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    It is fascinating to me you all are focusing on the first part of his sentenace (past) wherein what struk me so was the second sentance ---- what is going on in your head as oppossed to reality (J O K E R ) this was years ago ......


    the second sentance IMO is far more telling as it relates to July 20..............
     
  16. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    In some way this is confusing. Several folks are typing as if this is an individual, who has 6000 rounds of ammo, his house ready to set the neighborhood to pieces, has 4 guns, heavy duty outfits, as if this is an individual is canvassing not being caught.

    Come on guys, the last thing on the jokers mind was worrying about "getting away with it" figuring out if he had rent a cops around or near , he was the joker, the joker succeeds (obviously),

    the joker was gonna go shoot as many as possible, he was not even bothered if a rent a cop asked him his name , or for his batman ID!

    He is the joker , the joker does not bother than mundane stuff , he must do what he must .......................... D E L U S I O N I A L folks ! MI



    imo that is silly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

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    I think the Batman thing was attached to by the press for ratings and a shocker story.

    Explain to me, other than the hair (which is the wrong color), how he is this "Joker" entity? It's all speculation. There's no evidence leaning towards it at all. Everyone claims the hair... his hair isn't even the color of the Jokers hair.

    No one from his past has even said he was obsessed with Batman, all I've heard is Guitar Hero.

    All people are going on is second hand information from one statement and one alone.

    I believe he targeted this movie simply because it was sold out all over the country and guaranteed to have a full house at night time.

    I believe he is mentally ill. I do not believe he has a delusion where he thinks he is the Joker, and planned out this entire attack around Batman/Joker. Nope. Don't buy it.
     
  18. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

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    May I ask if you have ever read any of the Batman comics, watched the TV Show, or seen the movies? What exactly are you basing your knowledge of the Joker and his persona on?

    (ps - the joker does not always succeed and is jailed a few times)
     
  19. rollinginit

    rollinginit Active Member

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    You maybe right, cariis, but it is my opinion......he wanted a huge kill streak. Why do all this if it was not in his mind to kill as many people as he could? Mi or not, his intention was to kill.....and it was his intention to kill as many people as he could.

    He picked his place, mi or not, bc he knew it would pretty much be like shooting fish in a barrel. He "may not have" cared about security, cops, or whoever else. I don't know. Seems to me he thought his plan out....or at least the pre plan then the killing plan.

    He MAY have been mi, but to some degree...his brain functioned well enough to buy lots of guns, ammo, and rig his apartment. That will always be a part of this story that stands out.

    As always.....this is just my 2 cents.
     
  20. February

    February Member

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    errr you sound like me on the other thread!
    Yes, he bought so many ammunition so his intention was to kill as much as he can, why would he put his plan on risk by buying 6k ammo if all he wants is to kill 2-5 people, he doesnt need to carry 4 guns there too...no need to wear gas mask or whatsoever.....
     

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