Armchair Psych Profile and Treatment

Discussion in 'Movie Theater Massacre in Colorado' started by JBean, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    It was the family's neighbor that claimed JH worked at McDonalds. Maybe it was some other fast food joint?

    "After high school, Holmes received a bachelor's degree in neuroscience from the University of California, Riverside, but could not find a job after returning to San Diego several years ago. For a year or so, he worked part-time at a McDonald's, according to Tom Mai, who lives near the Holmes family in San Diego."
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/us-usa-shooting-denver-profile-idUSBRE86J19H20120720
     


  2. Roxye

    Roxye Active Member

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    IMO JH knew what he was doing from day 1. He was unsatisfied with his standings in his class and was a bit bewildered by him not coming out on top. His actions are retaliation for his bad grades and bad reports from the school. MI or NOT!!! he knew enough to spend almost 4 months to construct retaliation. Elaborate retaliation!

    Even if he is MI, this took planning! Even a MI person can plan. Even a MI person is sane enough to realize JH's sort of plan was beyond insane, it was deliberate!
     
  3. February

    February Member

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    Maybe :)
     
  4. HastingsChi

    HastingsChi Well-Known Member

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    jjenny to clarify: I was responding to your implication that any state university's administrator's/leaders are the pinnacle of honesty and its inconceivable to think otherwise.

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II
     
  5. Nemont

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    Wellll….IMHO, getting this worked up over something that has nothing whatsoever to do with you personally doesn't help MI stigma.

    Just sayin'

    Back to the topic subject…
    I just finished watching the video posted by OneLostGirl and if JH has the same illness that Diana Dial has, and firepower is an indication of how deep the rabbit hole might go, then JH must believe he has ALOT of enemies! He had enough explosives and firepower to take on a small army...
     
  6. HastingsChi

    HastingsChi Well-Known Member

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    I posed those questions because I'm trying to decipher a potential breaking point in his behavior, sanity.

    My very rough hypothesis is that his history of academic interests and potential career interests is somewhat related to that of his father. His father is a true genius whose career accomplishments are second to none in his field and his work has been adapted throughout global business. He likely felt pressure to attain similar successes; on paper, he appeared to be on the right path but his psychology was beginning to hinder his abilities as the course work became more challenging. As he was potentially freefalling academically his corrupt psychology took over more and more. Potentially when he realized he would lose his scholarship and be a complete failure in his father's eyes, he potentially gave up and let the corruption in his psychology eclipse the brilliance of his mind. When his semester end exam went poorly he reached a breaking point and the corrupt psychology used his genius to produce a diabolical, complex plan which he carried out.

    Like I said VERY rough hypothesis. Note the over use of the term potentially before shredding this. :D

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  7. February

    February Member

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    That is another thing, his father's accompolishment is a major stressor for him.
    I really think it is simple,this is Hatred + Depression that leds to Madness and created many delusions IMO
     
  8. DeadCat

    DeadCat Well-Known Member

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    Update on Fitz Apartments

    Manager who rejected Holmes apartment application lived in the building and is now an evacuee.
    Security camera tapes turned over to police:
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31336684/detail.html
    Conflicting Reports
    POI lives in the same building:
    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/08/10/investigators-deadly-apt-fire-intentionally-set/
    POI lives in nearby building:
    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31347563/detail.html
     
  9. ladeda7777

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    Thoughts about a friend named James Holmes

    "Wednesday, 25 July 2012 at 10:02 ·
    Disclaimer: I'm not here to justify the actions of the Aurora shooting. Nothing can warrent such a ridiculous act. Instead, I'm going to give you some background on a side that not even the media has covered. After a few days of digesting this, I decided to write my thoughts about it all and kinda describe what I've been thinking".

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146810573&page=1

    I am not aware that this has already been posted.
     
  10. songline

    songline New Member

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    I believe he knew what he was doing. He knew it was not right, and he knew how to plan.
    I do not believe I can say what he was thinking.

    I can say: his grades most likely plummeted because of him unraveling.
    I do not believe he unraveled because of his grades.
    The mental disorder had to be there first.
    :moo:
     
  11. songline

    songline New Member

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    I am for MI getting proper recognition, as they need it. I think if that happened early on this guy would have been saved to some extent.
    Not that they would have fixed his brain, but that they would have stabilized him.

    I do take it personally with each MI that is not taken care of.
    My daughter is MI. And I do not want to see any establishment that should have done better get away with it.
     
  12. songline

    songline New Member

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    THANK YOU ladeda.
     
  13. Nemont

    Nemont Member

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    Yes, it's here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179934&page=3
    post #59 discussing what music might have been playing in the apt. that night. I didn't post it in the links as it is hearsay…but yes, it was interesting...
     
  14. matou

    matou #los2188

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    Just saw this image from JH's grad school application. He was referred to as "Llama" because of it.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...-sheds-light-on-shooting-suspect-james-holmes
     
  15. songline

    songline New Member

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    I saw that photo when reading his roommates review recently.

    I think he was a nice looking man...Compare it to how he looks today.
    That kind of unraveling takes a long time.Just as I said very early on….

    And since it is MI they will not give a darn, but protect the University. :(:(

    At first all I saw was EVIL, but within a couple of days I changed my mind.
    ALL I see is MISSHANDLED.
     
  16. zvzvzv

    zvzvzv New Member

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    Interesting piece, especially when it came to the verdict & the assumption MI is treated in prison.
    For those who have not seen it, it's about a woman with paranoid schizophrenia who went untreated for years, leaving multiple signs in multiple communities & to her family & nobody was able to force her to get help. She remains floridly psychotic in prison.

    I think a big difference here is that James Holmes appears to have had Schizoid Personality Disorder much of his life. This would mean he would most likely not be sharing his delusional thoughts with anyone. Whatever signs of his deterioration, which Holmes kept hidden, were only astute observations by either his family or the psychiatrist.
     
  17. ladeda7777

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    While he may not share them (until Fenton) he must be aware of them and that might possibly be the reason for his chosen studies. He was to give a presentation on the "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders." Sounds like he was trying to discover the source of his own problems.?

    What little I know about neuroscience is that their is a lot of animal testing to see what chemicals might work for certain symptoms. Briefly the thought entered my mind that he might have experimented with lab meds. I know that sounds ridiculous.

    The hardest thing for someone (or their family) to deal with regarding MI is the ignorance of others. You can fight it but at some point you have to let it go or it will tear you down.
     
  18. waitin'4thewrld2chg

    waitin'4thewrld2chg Well-Known Member

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  19. newsleuther

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    I posted this in the documents thread, but it may be applicable here.

    AP released a lot of documents relating to his applications to graduate school. It included his resume and his "personal statement", the longest text that I have seen written by Holmes himself:

    http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_documents/holmes_application.pdf

     
  20. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

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    There is a LOT of information in those released files, including emails between Holmes and Uni's setting up appointments and things, I haven't even read all of it yet, but a lot of it comes from the shooter directly.

    He does sign them, "Cheers"
     

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