ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 - #21

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by SoSueMe, May 18, 2012.

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  1. SoSueMe

    SoSueMe Former Member

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  6. Aussie_expat.sg

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    My avatar is wistful, pensive, reflective....in her field of sunflowers.

    Exactly how I'm feeling thinking about the possible implications of fraud and monetary issues in this case. I've thought from the beginning that money was the issue, but don't like to "go there" because in my view, if that is the motive, there has to be some level of premeditation. Some element of planning, or at the very least, day dreaming about an outcome that eliminates a barrier to fixing a financial disaster.

    How much sadder would this be for the girls?

    People should call out for help, and suppress their pride, when they get into financial difficulty, rather than take a route that has no happy ending. I've had my times...the Smith Family was fabulous! (Long time ago....and there was no way I was going to refuse their help with a kid to support)
     
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    only two of us on...my conference calls have ended...guess i should be sensible and go to bed!!!!

    Good night Australia, Good morning Americas
     
  8. Berry

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    Night Aussie.......xxxx
     
  9. parkerp

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    agreed expat

    someone did mention that once the all details were known, they'd be a lot harder to accept, not that i am basing my opinion on that. yet, hey, when money is considered to be more important than human life, it's nauseating...

    IMO BANG ON. This is where my mind wandering led me to last night after digging around at all the info available on the ATO & ASIC, too many red flags and I thought back to the very little, yet succint, information we've heard directly from those investigating this that I could not wander away from this scenario above. IMO, the possibility of numerous persons being charged with serious high level fraud may just be key for them to get their murder charge that will stand up in any court of appeal. Those red flags, I'm starting to think it alarmed them as soon as they discovered it (possibly before she was found, thinking back to the changes we heard, POI, Missing Person Case, day she was found 'we've been treating this as an unlawful homicide investigation for some time') has told them a lot more than any one witness has yet...excluding possible accessories and evidence.
    IMO of course.
     
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    Off topic.

    Just a little note to you all regarding the sunflowers,it is an amazing gesture isn't it?
    I truly hope that if something untoward would ever happen to me that people would care enough to do this. I love how people's personalities shine through in their flower choice.(Mine was for all of us)
    May Allison's memory live on through love and happiness. If indeed this is a DV case I believe she will empower many women to take a stand.
    I hope she finds justice soon.
     
  11. Curiousasacat

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    imamaze..... Colonel mustard is not really a hidden meaning. It is the husband(GBC)'s nickname. Hence the mystery,Colonel mustard did it in the library eg and also his work jacket is a mustard colour. Just thought I'd clear it up while I saw you on line.
     
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    Sunflowers will always turn to face the sun:)
     
  13. Kimster

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    Although this is pretty harmless, it's a WS rule not to use name variations. In order to be consistent with everyone, please don't use this as a description of GBC anymore.

    Cheers!
     
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    Hi Kimster, do you want Gerard referred to as GBC and Allison as ABC?
     
  15. Curiousasacat

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    I was simply trying to clear up a joke someone else made about Colonel mustard to Imamaze from the previous thread.

    I don't think people had actually started using it.

    Good question bayside, seems the safest.
     
  16. Kimster

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    Initials or names are fine. Both are mentioned in the mainstream media, so according to our practices, each can be used.

    The problem with name variations is that it leads to making fun and/or bashing the players, which is a huge problem. And also, people who aren't familiar with the case will read here and not know who in the heck we're talking about. It took me awhile to figure it out and I check in every day!
     
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    It took me a half a beat...but then I'm around kids all day long.
    Hey, where is everybody? Is it night time on the other side of the world?
    I check in daily as well...wish we knew more about what LE is doing.
     
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    Morning! It's 5.25am Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne Australia time :wave:
     
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    Good Morning All!
    It is interesting to watch the drip feed of leaks via the CM. I can feel the pressure mounting myself and can only imagine the rush for GBC and Co to stay up to see what the CM will run or what PT will blog on any day.
    Thankyou to everyone for the sunflower symbology. A lovely gesture and somewhat uplifting during a time when we wait for QPS to do their finest work.
     
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    Hi Kimster,
    There is a nice T2 tea available here called Brisbane Breakfast - one of my favourite morning cuppas. Love the mugs - we will need to induct you amd the other mods as Fair Dinkum Aussies - warn you that we have a few tests for you to get through first. Vegemite and toast for a start, followed by a Bundy and coke. Apologys for being off topic for a moment.
     
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