ARREST!!! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#25

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  1. SoSueMe

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    Thank you for joining Websleuths! :welcome3:​


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    Currently, we are considering Allison's husband to be a suspected person of interest in this case. There is a possible second party involved per MSM and it is okay to discuss that aspect, but please refrain from accusing anyone of murder at this juncture. Speculating is one thing, accusing is another.


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    First! ... again!
     
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    Sleeeeeep (again)
     
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    :floorlaugh: me too
     
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    Well, time to get my beauty sleep and be alert for what 2:30 pm may bring.

    Nite all.
     
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    Goodnight everyone, I am not into making to many requests to the man upstairs but I will tonight for Allison that justice be served today.

    Hopefully the hard working men and women who have worked on this case so far will get rewarded later today.

    RIP Allison xxxx
     
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    The big day is here. Let's hope that the right decision is made.

    I can't help thinking if they have enough evidence to arrest him, they would surely have enough reason to keep him behind bars and deny bail. How could an alleged murderer be let loose? Even if they don't think he is a risk to reoffend or leave the country, surely they would keep him behind bars just for the fact he most probably murdered his wife!

    I for one will be shocked and angry if he is released.
     
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    Personally I am a bit gleeful at this begging for money business. Nothing like a bit of schadenfreude, I take comfort in it all being a struggle. I do hope he gets his first choice of legal representation and he still goes down for what's been alleged. I hope they wrangle every concession for him in the process, he can stay on the medical ward until he is convicted as far as I care, I want him to get every leg up and privilege he is used to but in the end, he still cops the full consequences of his alleged actions. Big legal fees, loss of social status, loss of liberty, and nothing to whinge about because he had every advantage. If anyone outside his family is silly enough to financially support him, I'm glad to see their money wasted too.
     
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    Challenge Accepted!!! I WILL be first on thread no#26... no time out's permitting of course, and I know I'll be hardpressed guaranteeing THAT haha
     
  16. Rational

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    Yes big day is here. May justice for Allison and her three girls be the guide in all of this.

    The request for funds for GBCs legal defence is still beyond my comprehension. Apart from it being wrong morally, it is also asks people to deposit money into an account which could e used for any purpose. It s not a trust fund like the Dickies set up for the girls which has clear guidelines on how it can be used.

    What is to say that if anyone is silly enough to put money into the OW account it is not used to fly OW backwards and forwards to Bne or even more dubious purposes. Anyway I have given this topic already too much energy.

    Today I will trust that justice will start to be done and also seen to be done.
     
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    I have woken up feeling anxious and appalled that money that is deposited into this account will be also come from criminals ( sympathizers) in australia and who knows, world wide.
    IMO , Shame on Ch 10 for putting up the acc details . This acc is now visible to a world wide audience. Shame shame shame .They should be procecuted and fined for Airing these acc details. So , what next for ch10 , can we expect to see all acc nos for every other bloody accused murderer awaiting trial in Australia ?
    IMO , If Criminals do give money, because they dislike the police and the justice system, then this money could possibly be from the " proceeds of crime"
    This account must be closed immediately , and all funds frozen.
    IMO, I know the accused is innocent until proven guilty. I accept that ,
    BUT
    IMO , IF the accused is found guilty ,and he has used this money to support himself and this crime, then the money paid to his solicitors/ barristers should be given back , as the money is from the proceeds of crime "
    IMO, Better still , the solicitors / barrasters of the accused , should now not be allowed to accept any money or gifts for this client and if that doesnt happen , then A forensic accountant should be engaged to make sure that the money does not come from or be supported by the money in this account. " proceeds of crime"
    IMO , Shame on ch 10 shame shame shame , this airing is going to have huge implications in the whole system .
     
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    Unfortunately I was unable to view the 10 news video due to my location(but hey,apparently some of you have sleuthed me so may already know that)
    The 10 news showing the email could indeed be a favour for an exclusive or a friend but imagine if Olivia did not give permission for the release, how mortifying.
    I believe she may feel embarrassed about the invasion of privacy and the fact that the public now realize they need financial help. ALL MOO of course.

    I am sure if they couldtell the truth then surely a Current Affair or Today Tonight would pay for their story

    I can see it go something like this -
    Presenter-Welcome,we have Olivia here tonight to tell the version of events on behalf of her brother in regards to his wife's mysterious murder.
    OW-Well firstly I can't believe they arrested the wrong guy! Why they are not out there arresting the right guy is beyond me. Also,thanks for paying for this interview it will certainly pay for some bribes um legal fees. Because we want the money returned to us when he is released.
    Gerard has been too frightened to speak publicly, he can't say what really happened due to fear of the bad men.
    Presenter-Bad men?? Please explain.
    OW-Well only one bad man for sure but there are probably more. You see what happened on that fateful night was this.
    Gerard was saving petrol and thinking of the environment,he is such a thoughtful and gentle man,he was doing his business as usual on his new malvern star bicycle. He was furiously peddling to get home to his darling,delightful wife but then he made a mistake. He cut off a white van on the roundabout. The guy driving the van was so mad like real road rage. Everyone should be out looking for this man. He has long hair and he was wearing gardening gloves, we think he has ties to the finks bicycle club. Gerard was so scared because the man broke his bicycle,he called dad to come and pick up him and the bike.
    The long haired man was so mean to dad he couldn't drive so he sat down and cried til he calmed down enough to take Gerard home. Anyway,the guy in the van followed Gerard home. Gerard was so scared that he hid at home.Allison was bored watching the footie show so she decided to take a walk at about 10pm,she had depression you know so she probably wanted to clear her head and show people walking by her new hairdo.
    Gerard did warn her that there was a garden glove wearing maniac out there but he figured he was after him not her. Oh how wrong he was hey!
    So Gerard went to bed thinking she'd be gone a while on her night time hike but when he woke at 7am to see the porch light still on he thought straight away that the bad man in the van must have got her. He called police and her parents.
    A few days later Gerard was driving to the police station to do a sketch of the van man but he must have known because he jumped in front of Gerards borrowed car and made Gerard crash into a pole. He was still wearing the gardening gloves and made a motion with the gloved finger across his neck. So of course Gerard is so scared now, they put him in jail because he's a little bit hurt but he'll be ok. It's really only for his own protection,that's why he's not in the real jail.

    or perhaps they could tell the real story????
     
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    A little light hearted humour for todays tense day xxxx
    May justice be served in the best possible way.
     
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    Ozazure, I like your style. :rocker:
     
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