Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

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  1. Tadpole12

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    Gabriel also has a daughter that needs an operation from a cancer. He set up a Gofund me page specifically to help his daughter and has been thanking people who have contributed to it. I also was on his fb page and I thought she was referring to his ******** account to help his daughter.
     
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    John tried to kill himself by eating Oleander leaves
    he's is admitted into the hospital they are keeping him.
    I have no link this was given to me in a tweet Also read it on Gabriel page this morning 'Not sure if it's a scam for John to get money for his information would he go that far?
     
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    ajurk It's Peanut Butter Jelly Time!

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    Just when you think this whole situation couldn't get anymore insane, something even more crazy happen. Does anyone else think John and Gabriel have an intimate relationship? How are these two even friends? I've been watching the show and nothing seems "right". The trip to New Orleans, the trip to Aruba. How does John think Gabriel is getting this money for extravagant trips?
     
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    I am aware that Gabriel's daughter is supposed to have cancer. I have only seen that statement once and don't know anymore about it. Now, John has eaten Oleander leaves. This is where I saw the offer of money being given to Gabriel......when they were talking about John trying to commit suicide not when it was about Gabriel's daughter.

    It just seems like it is one 'crisis' after another;

    They find a place that could be a grave.
    Whoops, it's the wrong place. Found another place.
    They found bones (could be animal bones).
    They are human bones.
    Gabriel is sick of John.
    Gabriel has had enough and is quitting.
    Gabriel will not work with T.J. (yet he supposedly knows where Natalie is and won't tell Dave because Dave will tell T.J. IF GABRIEL TRULY CARED AND THINKS DAVE SHOULD GET HIS DAUGHTER BACK, GABRIEL WOULD TELL DAVE WHERE SHE IS AND BE DONE WITH THIS. But no, he has to drag it out more)
    Gabriel needs money. (just hints at this time)
    Gabriel's daughter has cancer. (hints for money)
    John 'tries' to commit suicide.

    It just goes on and on. On Gabriel's FB page women are all over him....."we support you!! Don't give up!! You shouldn't be charged but John should." BUT HE WON'T GIVE UP THE INFO OF WHERE NATALIE IS!!

    It all sounds like a big, crappy mess.
     
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    G: But anyways they were also asking me about
    what hospital John is
    and all that
    a lot of people were you know were telling me
    well, his mom and dad want to keep it secret
    basically they want to keep it private
    the mom and dad are very pissed off and angry....
    So you know John is like I said he went to a hospital
    to get checked out make sure that whatever
    he ate is taken out of his stomach
    or his system
    And then from there he was going to a mental institution
    to get evaluated you know see how crazy he is
    or whatever and you know
    then after that then
    They're gonna release him
    Because you know he has to pay for what he has done
     
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    If this Gabriel person is a registered resident of Aruba, he and his daughter will have health insurance. Aruba has national statutory mutual insurance.
    The Aruban regulations stipulate that if the treatment is not available on the island, the mutual fund will decide where the sick person will be treated: Curacao, the Netherlands, Venezuela (not so much nowadays) USA or Colombia.
     
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    Heyya ZaZara
    IDK
    G refers to himself as Mexican American
     
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    -58:57

    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/teamgabe?source=feed_text&story_id=1929525480592322

    G: Like he said
    he broke the body up
    This is what actually happened
    VDS and John
    grabbed the body
    They bring it down
    early morning hours
    It was dark
    They leave the body in the back patio
    It was all in a blue tarp
    And inside that tarp
    was Natalee in a burlap
    She was never buried in the ground
    Ever
    Ever guys
    Ever
    So this is gruesome alright
    What I'm about to tell you guys is gruesome
    So this is what happens
    John was hurting so bad for ...
    .... so John was hurting so bad for drugs
    That, that, uhm, he did, he did it
    He helped VDS
    Guess what they did
    They came down
    and then they went ahead and grabbed a sledge hammer
    and they broke her
    before they did that
    they grabbed the sledge hammer
    busted this bone right here
    [points to front of neck]

    And she had her hair
    they grabbed it and they put it in a
    pack sack, like a little bag
    Then they went to John's Aunt's house
    Remember this is a rental property
    They went to the Aunt's house
    And about 150, 200 feet
    They went back there
    And they made a fire 'cause
    John, Madisson and John
    used to smoke weed back there
    So they went back there
    and, uh, they started a fire
    which I got pictures guys
    I have pictures
    of the original place
    and it's not a cave it's like
    its like,
    he was, he was high that night
    but it was like a, like a
    canopy of tress just overgrown like this [gestures]
    And to him it sounded like a cave
    So they grabbed her head
    They built a fire
    They put the fire there
    This is really discusting
    And there was still pieces of flesh like
    here on her side and like back right here
    [points to face and neck]
    There was pieces of flesh
    and they burned all that off
    Once they hair came all burnt out
    And then they grabbed it and......
    ....So after they burned the skull
    for they burn her hair they burn all
    the flesh that was
    She was like mummified
    And after they burned all that
    Then they grabbed the skull
    They put it back in the back sack
    And they take off to the Aunt's house
    The other Aunt's rental propery
    They go back there
    And they, they put a canvas
    that his, VDS got from his mom
    And they put the burlap
    and uh well they open the burlap
    I'm sorry cause it
    was all rotted and uhm you could see
    John said you could see Natalee folded
    her
    to her oroginal
    This is gruesome
    to her original stage
    and uhm then
    They grabbed a sledge hammer
    a sledge hammer and a pick
    For seven hours these animals
    For seven hours they pounded that body to pieces
    For seven hours, seven long hours
    they pounded her
    You know how sick they are to do this
    You know how sick VDS and John
    How sick they are
    to do what they did
    I mean,.... it's unexplainable
    Now what did they do with her rest of her remains
    ....
    Now her rest of her remains have pieces
    of dead, of dried flesh
    John did specify that
    dried flesh
    and they put her in a box
    I can't tell you more
    Where they put her
    I can't, Uhm,
    I really can't
    Do I know, I have a good idea,
    good idea
    Would I tell TJ, Hell no
    He can go try and find it himself
    And, but anyways so
    John tells me all this
    It was nasty, it was nasty
    Now where did they put this
    According to TJ she was,
    she was thrown in
    the ocean because his voice analysis says that
    A Lie
    So now you guys have seen that the
    cremation is a lie
    ......
    So it was crazy, how all this, what happened to her that night
    And these guys just went to a party, like nothing, like nothing
    So after that, they, they took the remains
    and they went ahead and put it somewhere
    All her other remains
    Now how did I get those
    other remains
    I can't say till part six.
    "40 per cent truth, 60 per cent lies"
     
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    How sad. Thanks for posting this.


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    Just catching up on videos, Dave says he's not stopping until he gets justice for Natalee. I'm all for it, go for it Dave, you deserve it.
     
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    I'm still in the midst of the latest episode. I'm just curious though , they're talking about bring charges against John and Gabriel. So I'm just assuming that these two clowns went along with this in order to have lesser sentences? Initially I thought they were doing it for the award money, now I'm totally not sure what's going on. I'll finish watching , maybe some answers?
     
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    Something else, how / why would Gabriel do this for no money? Why wouldn't they have paid him something? So weird.
     
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    G, in his September 15 at 4:10pm FB video,
    says he signed a release not a contract.
    ?
    The disappearance of NH produced by Brian Graden Media
     
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    I don't understand.
     
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    [video=youtube;egrh9QovCQg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egrh9QovCQg[/video]

    Urataka Center, Aruba


    @ 2:07 Communications tower
    @ 2:28 Taco Bell. KFC McD Catholic church and cemetary
    @ 3:02 right turn, to National Park. MUNDO NOBO
    @3:27 right turn see Water Tower in distance
    @3:48 Urataka Center, hydro line
     

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