Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #2

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  1. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    On G's FB Live Sept 23 2017
    he responds to a text by his /manager?
    - 28:11
    warning not to say specifics

    (he's working on a book deal)
     
  2. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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    Yes indeed, FM
    STRANGE
    Numbing to see
    the bag of bones in Oygen's video
    (bag looked slightly aged)
    Is this ALL just an elaborate CON?
    Are the bones even NH's?
    G seems to think that even if they are not
    his videos and material merit further investigation
    or at least adequate compensation.
    Were the bones part of JVS's first attempt at
    extorting cash for location of body scheme?
     
  3. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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  4. Tadpole12

    Tadpole12 Well-Known Member

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  5. Tssiemer

    Tssiemer Well-Known Member

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    I think this is all for attention.


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  6. Barb Wire

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    The Aruba Police Is Not a Credible Source.
     
  7. Barb Wire

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    If it is Natalee
    I hope he gets a book deal, an a movie..
     
  8. Barb Wire

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    [h=5]Gabriel Madrigal is with Pamela Williams.[/h]1 hrNatalee Holloway A life to remember







    Synopsis Of The Latest Developments In The Natalee Holloway Disappearance.
    We know that the DNA being tested here in the United States has come back as being from a “single individual”, “Caucasian”, of “European descent” according to forensic scientist Dr. Jason Kolowski. This is what he told Oxygen, the network behind “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway.”
    The gender of the person is still unclear; however, it is known that the remains are 12 years old.
    Kolowski told Oxygen he is confident he will have “compelling” answers in late September or early October.
    There is speculation that the dna test has been delayed due to some type of error, but this is only speculation at this point.
    The below is a photo of one of the bone fragments recovered in Aruba.

    PHOTO TAKEN FROM http://www.nydailynews.com/…/results-bones-natalee-holloway…
    Oxygen is saying that the dna test should be completed by October 6 at the latest. The network will present the finale broadcasting of “The Disappearance of Natalee Holloway” on Saturday, September 23, 2017.
    The investigation found a friend of Joran Van der Sloot’s, John Ludwig, told Gabriel Madrigal that he was paid to dig up Natalee’s remains with Van der Sloot in 2010.
    The horror that precious girl endured while alive and the desecration of the corpse is beyond anything we could have imagined. These two suspects crushed her remains for hours with sledge hammers.
    John Ludwig is a liar of gigantic proportions. He has constantly changed his story, and Gabriel Madrigal is the only one who has the patience to dig the truth out of him. Gabriel is very dedicated to finish bringing the remains of Natalee home.
    There are further remains on the island of Aruba that only John and Gabe know about. Madrigal has spent so much of his time and money into this investigation that he is now homeless. He was very upset when TJ Ward asked the Aruban authorities to arrest him while he was undercover in Aruba with John Ludwig and the Oxygen investigative team.
    The Aruban authorities were not actively investigating the disappearance of Natalee; therefore, Gabriel did nothing wrong. Gabriel admits he is not a perfect person, but he has put his time and money into working with John Ludwig to find the remains of Natalee Holloway.
    He is still in touch with John and it seems John is willing to pay for what he has done. He is suicidal, and is now being observed by mental health professionals.
    Ludwig had first said that Natalee’s bones were put in a crematory with dog bones and cremated. However, Gabriel was able to get John to tell the truth. And the truth is that was a lie. John has told many lies, and Gabriel has had to treat him with kid gloves to get the truth from him.
    Gabriel now believes he has the information he needs to go forward if the dna test proves to be Natalee Holloway.
    He wants to go back to Aruba with a full team of forensic specialists and the FBI. If, in fact, the dna proves to be Natalee’s, he feels he will be able to somehow do this, but he has to have help. He is trying his best to prepare for this.
    Gabriel is very empathetic with the Aruban people, and he says he has only been treated well there. He would like to see this case be completed, and he feels that Aruba should want this, too.
    He feels very empathetic for Dave Holloway and Natalee’s Mother Beth. He knows they are beyond going at this point. He realizes that Dave is stretched beyond human limitations.
    We must all pray that all parties can work together to being closure for Natalee and her family.
    In a perfect world, we would see everyone coming together to complete the mission that Gabe believes God gave him to bring Natalee home.
    Further we would see Joran Van der Sloot spend the rest of his life locked away never to see daylight again.
    And we would see Joran and John face to face in a court room finally giving the testimony of the truth of why Natalee never made her flight home. Although, John did not know Joran or had never been to Aruba during the time of Natalee’s murder, he did desecrate her precious body and should pay a price for this.
    Natalee’s body should have been given to her parents, and she should have been laid to rest in her beloved Alabama.
    I feel she will know when Dave, Robin, and Beth know the truth of what she experienced the night she was taken to heaven away from the horrors of this world.
    Paulus Van der Sloot, allegedly, according to John Ludwig, actually was the one who murdered Natalee. If this proves to be so, then we know he is paying the price for this as we speak.
    As Gabriel says “God will be the judge,” and God tells us not to judge. However, I struggle with my own tendency to judge Joran, Paulus, and John. I believe at this point, God understands my feelings.

    Andie

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/598727173493235/permalink/1680649841967624/

     
  9. heavenly2012

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    I cannot believe so many things in this case.
    The Aruban police told Dave Holloway the bones that came from Gabriel and John were animal bones . Come to find out, they were human! Not only that, I believe they are actually Natalee's, we will see on Oct 6th when the current testing is done. The levels of lying and covering up/corruption by authorities in Aruba is extreme. I have no desire to go to Aruba because of this case.
     
  10. HoneyWest

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    I'm really hoping the bones are a match to Natalee. Just to put an end to her parents' suffering, settle what happened to her, and put the conspiracy theories to bed. Just waiting for Oct. 6th.
     
  11. Whiteorchids

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    I'm having a hard time believing all this. I watched all those videos Gabe posted on his FB. He's loving all this attention and his doting FB friends. He's really got the gift of gab lol. I'll believe it if the testing comes back as Natalee's which I highly doubt. So many bones tested since she went missing. Sadly, never are hers. I'm a skeptic the players seem like characters out of a movie except DH. Where is Natalee's Mom Beth Holloway in these episodes?
     
  12. neesaki

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    Just watched the last Oxygen episode.... now we're waiting til October ?! Geez.... And all they have is four tiny pieces of bone. And so far, inconclusive. I have a feeling the end result will be inconclusive as well, but what do I know, not a thing. I sure hope I'm wrong! God Bless Dave Holloway!
     
  13. neesaki

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    Dolphi Richardson and the officer to his right both seemed to be quite uncomfortable and squirming in their seats, why they would so blatantly lie about the bones is beyond me, it's obvious they didn't really know if they were human or animal without a DNA test. That in itself makes them look bad. At the end of episode 6 I was so distrustful of them that I more than halfway expected that they had tampered with the bones, as in exchanged them out for different bones. If they turn out not to be Natalee's I'll still be suspicious about that. Then they more or less come right out and admit that they have no intention of arresting JL, it seemed almost to the point that they are protecting him for some reason.

    As for Gabe and JL, I think they want to have their own reality show. :facepalm:
     
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    lonetraveler Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree with you. If anything, this series just reinforced my opinion about just how corrupt the Aruba police and officials really are. I would not go to Aruba if someone paid me to go.

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  16. Barb Wire

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    "Dolphi Richardson and the officer to his right both seemed to be quite uncomfortable and squirming in their seats, why they would so blatantly lie about the bones is beyond me, it's obvious they didn't really know if they were human or animal without a DNA test. That in itself makes them look bad.:
    Who are the others in this picture I took this picture from my TV..
    In Aruba they are always animal bones don't you all remember this.
    They have a box of bones in their office that they have collected form the years, just in case someone goes missing in Aruba IMO
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  17. italianangel2411

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    I was shocked on how bad the Aruban authorities treated DH....I think John is crazy out of his mind and is loving the publicity.
    WHY GO BACK TO ARUBA 2 WEEKS LATER WITHOUT AUTHORITIES AND DH, ETC TO GO FIND A BAG OF BONES???
    That is so crazy to me....why not show the bag of remains when they were all there two weeks before? Did John or Gabriel get paid within those two weeks? So fishy!
    I have a hard time understanding why they test all the bones together "a combination" to get the tests for the mother/daughter dna (mitrocondrial)? Why not test the bones individually instead of a combination of all the bones in the first place?
     
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    John is so frustrating. I agree, why not do the right thing and just tell the damn truth already?? To go back on your own and pull out a baggie with bone fragments - how can he do this to Dave and the family.
    If he would have just been truthful from the very beginning he may have had hope for some leniency. Not anymore though - too many lies.
     
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    I also want to note how quiet Beth has been on all this....no comments from her on her thoughts on this?
     
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    Good point. My guess is that she's been burned so many times in the past and didn't want to get her hopes up.
     

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