- Jul 12, 2011
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I thought the 16 was in reply to his Where are you baby question but a poster pointed out that he asked that after she sent the 16
By the way does anyone know what it means to be "digitally choked?"
In Thread #1, we were discussing possible interpretations of the text message she supposedly sent: "the 16"
(wasn't this is response to her boyfriend's question: Where r u baby?)
Someone said that it was pretty much confirmed that it meant her return date. I mentioned I had thought of that; however, I did not think the trip was scheduled for that length of time.
In this article, GG and RG were scheduled to be there for for only 5 days.
The two arrived on the island July 31 for a five-day getaway, after meeting online.
You don't know that they refer to two separate incidents (unless you somehow know the name of the person making the complaint in the second case). The both sound like the same incident. There is a difference in dates, but note that the dates in the second incident refer to when the report and subsequent complaint was made. That is not when the alleged assault took place, which presumably was earlier, possibly much earlier. Also, the report in the second incident was used to get a search warrant to look for video, and possibly video of other victims. If he had hidden cameras recording this stuff then the victim would not have known about it, unless she had been made aware of it subsequently. So, how would that happen? That would be consistent with the first report which also talks about video, and and implied threat to distribute it. That is why I think that both of these reports refer to the same incident.
There are other things that look odd. For example, the page you transcribed talks about drinking wine and talking, then suddenly they are standing next to his bed where he allegedly attacks her. How did they get from one to the other? No one I know drinks wine and socializes in the bedroom. That doesnt make sense.
Like I said before, I think this is the same incident and the purpose of the complaint was to get the video out of his hands.
Once they had the video they would have proceeded with charges. They don't need the cooperation of the victim in a criminal case if they have other evidence, and video of an attack would certainly fit the bill in that regard. Once a complaint has been made in a criminal matter it can't be withdrawn like a civil complaint, the case will only be dropped if there is insufficient evidence.
The devil is in the details my friend.
WHAT DO THE OFFENDERS’ CRIMES MEAN IN PLAIN LANGUAGE?
The registry lists the offender’s crime and offender category. The crimes are most often described in legal language which may leave you confused about what an offender actually did. The following is a glossary of terms translated loosely into plain language:
Sexual predator: offender who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense and has been deemed by a court likely to do it again.
Sexually violent offender: offender who has been convicted of a sexually violent offense.
Sexually violent offense: 1st or 2nd degree rape or attempted rape; 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sexual offense.
1st degree rape: Vaginal intercourse by force or threat of force, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc.
2nd degree rape: Vaginal intercourse by force or threat of force, or with mentally disabled victim, or with victim under 14 and perpetrator 4 years older.
1st degree sexual offense: Sexual act by force or threat of force, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc. Sexual act is oral sex, anal sex, or penetration by an object, but does not include vaginal intercourse.
2nd degree sexual offense: Sexual act by force or threat of force, or with mentally disabled victim, or with victim under 14 and perpetrator 4 years older. Sexual act is oral sex, anal sex, or penetration by an object, but does not include vaginal intercourse.
3rd degree sexual offense: Sexual contact without the consent of the victim, along with an aggravating factor, like causing or putting in fear of serious physical injury or disfigurement, suffocating, kidnapping, etc. Sexual contact is intentionally touching genitalia, the anus or other intimate area. It includes penetration by a part of the body except the penis or mouth.
Also includes sexual contact with mentally disabled victim, victim under age 14 and perpetrator 4 years older, a sexual act with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 21, vaginal intercourse with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 21.
4th degree sexual offense: Not considered a sexually violent offense. Sexual contact without consent of victim, sexual act with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 4 years older; vaginal intercourse with victim 14 or 15 and perpetrator 4 years older. Sexual contact is intentionally touching genitalia, the anus or other intimate area. It includes penetration by a part of the body except the penis or mouth.
Child Sexual Offender: An offender who has been convicted of any of the above offenses with a victim less than 15 years old, i.e., any sexually violent offense (1st or 2nd degree rape; 1st, 2nd, or 3rd degree sexual offense), or a 4th degree sexual offense. Also includes offenders convicted of sexual abuse of a minor who is a family member or living in the household.
Offender: An offender who has been convicted of certain other offenses related to sexual offending, like kidnapping or false imprisonment of a minor, violations of the child *advertiser censored* and prostitution laws, etc.
She also began speaking to Montgomery law enforcement, who searched Giordano's house in May last year, according to officials. But the case was ultimately halted.
"We investigated Ms. Landau's client's matter and met with her multiple times," said Montgomery County State's Attorney John McCarthy, the county's top prosecutor. "She ultimately did not wish to pursue it, and we honored her wishes."
Giordano was not criminally charged in the Montgomery County matters, according to court records, and the allegations made by the two women were made in civil and family-law cases. In each case, Giordano filed allegations of his own, asserting that a former girlfriend harassed him by distributing slanderous letters and that his then-wife hit him in the upper back with a 14-inch steel cooking spoon.
Thanks Dushi for clarifying that.
OK, so the "where r u baby" is on Sat. the 6th, I guess.
Here is the link showing the messages, as so kindly posted by members on Thread #1,
"the 16. I can communictate here." is on August 1.
"the 16. I can communictate here."
So, if that is her return date to where the boyfriend is, it has to mean that she was planning on staying somewhere else until the 16th? Because her return date from Aruba should have been, around August 5. Is that why the boyfriend texts on August 6, "where r u baby"?
Dunno if anyone else answered this as I am reading the thread and posting as I go along...but "digitally choked" refers to being choked by someone using their hands only (as opposed to a cord or other choking device being used) Digits are fingers, remember.
sorry if this is posted downthread. MOO
No. The woman said he shoved his fingers down her throat.
Why does it say Saturday, when August 2 is Tuesday
I had my car stolen last year. It took the PG county police 3 hours to come take a simple report. I was saying that in order for Montgomery County to reopen a claim of sex assault (which did not happen, BTW- it was a petition for order of protection that was dropped by the plaintiff for whatever reason), it would take months/years to sort out if GVG has an attorney worth his salt- and it appears he does given his past troubles. A fresh sexual assault on US soil? Any state will expedite such a criminal case. Maryland judiciary process? SLOW.
A poster said it was after the 16 post and i looked only at the date of august 2 on the message
About August 6... did i read that he said her gmail was active?
Maybe he was reaching out to her, hoping for a reply
Well, thanks for that, but I'm still confused. Wonder what question preceeded the Aug. 1 - "the 16. can communictate here."
2010 Maryland Code
TITLE 3 - OTHER CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON
Subtitle 3 - Sexual Crimes
Section 3-303 - Rape in the first degree.
§ 3-303. Rape in the first degree.
(a) Prohibited.- A person may not:
(1) engage in vaginal intercourse with another by force, or the threat of force, without the consent of the other; and
(2) (i) employ or display a dangerous weapon, or a physical object that the victim reasonably believes is a dangerous weapon;
(ii) suffocate, strangle, disfigure, or inflict serious physical injury on the victim or another in the course of committing the crime;
(iii) threaten, or place the victim in fear, that the victim, or an individual known to the victim, imminently will be subject to death, suffocation, strangulation, disfigurement, serious physical injury, or kidnapping;
(iv) commit the crime while aided and abetted by another; or
(v) commit the crime in connection with a burglary in the first, second, or third degree.
(b) Violation of § 3-503(a)(2) of this title.- A person may not violate subsection (a) of this section while also violating § 3-503(a)(2) of this title involving a victim who is a child under the age of 16 years.
(c) Age considerations.- A person 18 years of age or older may not violate subsection (a) of this section involving a victim who is a child under the age of 13 years.
(1) Except as provided in paragraphs (2), (3), and (4) of this subsection, a person who violates subsection (a) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the first degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding life.
(2) A person who violates subsection (b) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the first degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding life without the possibility of parole.
(3) A person who violates subsection (a) or (b) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the first degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding life without the possibility of parole if the defendant was previously convicted of violating this section or § 3-305 of this subtitle.
(4) (i) Subject to subparagraph (iv) of this paragraph, a person 18 years of age or older who violates subsection (c) of this section is guilty of the felony of rape in the first degree and on conviction is subject to imprisonment for not less than 25 years and not exceeding life without the possibility of parole.
(ii) A court may not suspend any part of the mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years.
(iii) The person is not eligible for parole during the mandatory minimum sentence.
(iv) If the State fails to comply with subsection (e) of this section, the mandatory minimum sentence shall not apply.
(e) Required notice.- If the State intends to seek a sentence of imprisonment for life without the possibility of parole under subsection (d)(2), (3), or (4) of this section, or imprisonment for not less than 25 years under subsection (d)(4) of this section, the State shall notify the person in writing of the State's intention at least 30 days before trial.
[An. Code 1957, art. 27, § 462; 2002, ch. 26, § 2; ch. 187, § 1; 2003, ch. 21, § 1; 2005, ch. 482; 2006, ch. 44, § 6; 2006 Sp. Sess., ch. 4; 2007, chs. 494, 495; 2008, ch. 36, § 6; ch. 345; 2009, ch. 60.]
Still bothering me though is the part:
"I can communictate here."
I still think she may have transposed the letters of two words, and meant to say:
"I can't communicate here."
If that is the case, it seems that she was not able to communicate because:
She was under the control of someone, and we know who seemed to be in control in that situation.
She transposed letters in two words and meant to say: "I can communicate there."