ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 3

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  1. Salem

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  3. HatesSociopaths

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    I was reviewing the information known about the case, and want to propose a possible theory based on one of Giordano's statements. I think it's possible GG was covering the possibility that the body of RG could wash up and what an autopsy might reveal.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International...policy-robyn-gardner/story?id=14331550&page=2

    http://www.sunshinecoasthealthcentre.ca/date-rape-drugs.html

    http://www.bu.edu/police/prevention/rohypnol_fact_sheet.htm

    http://oade.nd.edu/educate-yourself-drugs/rohypnol-flunitrazepam/

    http://oade.nd.edu/educate-yourself-drugs/rohypnol-flunitrazepam/

    This theory speculates that Robyn's death was not planned. What was planned was a sexual assault of the victim while in her drugged state of mind. This may have been done due to unwillingness on the victim's part to engage in certain sexual activities, or as part of some deluded fantasy to overpower the victim with drugs so he could have his way with her. There is some degree of evidence that the victim may not have been a completely willing party to all of Giordano's plans, such as her comment "This sucks" at 2 a.m. the night before her disappearance, made on RF's Facebook wall.

    How difficult is it to obtain roofies in Aruba? Is it possible to track down a purchase of them? Another angle to check would be to find out from Robyn's friends if she carried a bottle of sleeping pills with her as a routine. I believe it will be discovered that she does not. Also, she didn't take the bottle of pills with her into the ocean, so where are they?

    The statement by Giordano may have been his way of ensuring he is not implicated in her death in case her body is found and the drug is found in her system.
     
  4. AngelFish

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    From the time of arrival to the disappearance is approximately 48 hours, maybe less, we do not know what time they arrived. Typically, incoming flights from the US begin landing starting at about Noon with the latest landing at about 10pm. I doubt GG had enough time to locate a dealer. I've never tried to score drugs in Aruba ( or anywhere for the record :innocent: ) so, who knows? It might be easy enough to do but I'm thinking it is more likely that whatever RG consumed (other than alcohol) arrived to the Island with them.
     
  5. HatesSociopaths

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    Just found this:

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/17/ijvm.01.html
     
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    Snipped from HatesSociopaths


    This theory speculates that Robyn's death was not planned. What was planned was a sexual assault of the victim while in her drugged state of mind. This may have been done due to unwillingness on the victim's part to engage in certain sexual activities, or as part of some deluded fantasy to overpower the victim with drugs so he could have his way with her. There is some degree of evidence that the victim may not have been a completely willing party to all of Giordano's plans, such as her comment "This sucks" at 2 a.m. the night before her disappearance, made on RF's Facebook wall.

    How difficult is it to obtain roofies in Aruba? Is it possible to track down a purchase of them? Another angle to check would be to find out from Robyn's friends if she carried a bottle of sleeping pills with her as a routine. I believe it will be discovered that she does not. Also, she didn't take the bottle of pills with her into the ocean, so where are they?

    The statement by Giordano may have been his way of ensuring he is not implicated in her death in case her body is found and the drug is found in her system.[/quote]



    I do believe they shared an adult relationship in every sense of the word.
    However, everyone, or most people have a line that they will not cross.
    Its always possible that she was asked to cross her line

    And I see no reason for him to mention sleeping pills unless he was worried about something being found at a later date.
    Whether it is sleeping pills or some other substance is anyones guess

    I have not heard what was found with her luggage
     
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    I do have a question I hope someone can help with

    While reading around this morning, I read a quote from a news anchor from Aruba

    He said there were no cameras behind the restaurant, he said they walked around and looked.

    So, how do they know Gary went behind the restaurant before calling 911?
    The restaurant was closed at 5:30

    TIA
     
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    After doing some web searches, I have found numerous comments that indicate the beach next to their hotel is a common place to be asked to buy drugs, on the sidewalk area there by the high rises.

    It might be worth the effort by ALE to show photos of Giordano and Robyn to the people on that beach and see if something comes up.
     
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    That doesn't make sense, why would he need to plot that when he apparently allready had an intimate relationship with her.
     
  10. Dushi

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    Well of course drugs are available
    if demand is there, supply is sure to follow

    In twenty eight trips, I have never been approached, I never went looking either, but its there
     
  11. HatesSociopaths

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    Maybe it was his way of getting her to do EVERYTHING he wanted to do with her sexually, things she was not comfortable with and refusing to do. "This Sucks" - why did she say that?
     
  12. Dushi

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    There is no way of knowing what she is referring to
    Its a rather mild statement
     
  13. HatesSociopaths

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    Of course not, but it indicates she was not having a good time. Why?
     
  14. HatesSociopaths

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    We also have a known earlier attempt at forced sodomy with the report made in 2010.
     
  15. Dushi

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    She could have been talking about dinner

    She could have been referring to the trip and the company she was keeping

    She could have been saying it because her BF caught her on Vacation with another man

    Its two words, can't determine what she was talking about
     
  16. AngelFish

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    They were at the Ren, in downtown at the Marina. The highrise area is quite a distance from where they were staying. That's not to say they could not have went down to the other end.
     
  17. HatesSociopaths

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    Thanks for clarifying the location of the hotel. Are there known areas of drug selling in THAT part of Aruba? Thanks.
     
  18. Dushi

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    I've never been approached, either. Nor have I ever seen anything that might look like a good area to "score".
     
  20. HatesSociopaths

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    It was stated at 2 A.M.

    She had not been caught by the boyfriend at that time per reports. He thought he was gay.

    No attempt is being made here to say with certainty what she was talking about. It is a clue, that is all. Something to sleuth with, not discard.
     
  21. AngelFish

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    LOL.... Well, I've never tried to score drugs, but if I were going to try I suppose downtown is where I would begin. The Ren is downtown.
     
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