Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #15

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ESH and Kambo - I didn't realise you guys felt that way about me being on Websleuths. You guys have been here a lot longer than me so don't leave - I will. I would like to say though that I never told lies I don't watch crime shows and I wasn't exposed for my story being contradicted. Anyway as I said DONT LEAVE - it's up to me to leave. I thought bringing in new ideas might be helpful not looked on as useless.

No need to leave. I apologize for directing my frustration at the majority on to you. I think people really just need to chill and wait until the trial. SS is not going to be found by a member of this site looking at google maps or wandering around a pioneer grave yard in Kenwick. If she was somewhere obvious she wouldn't have been missing for 20 years. You don't think trained criminal investigators have looked at line theories and plotted this out on maps over the last two decades with access to more info than us. That's even if the accused is responsible. I just hope no one on here gets called to be on the jury as it would be a shame for you to have to decline.

It's hard to be impartial when you have been reading the accused is a serial masturbating, cross dressing, devil worshipping nazi with a gympie leg who shat his pants and was bullied in high school and ended up in a mental institution or private clinic to deal with a sexual dysfunction and was sexually abused by the pysc whilst he was taking steroids and bipolar medication (that made him chubby) scouting the outer suburbs of Perth in his UBD for dumps sites hiding trophies at little athletics, storing her body in the freezer at the family holiday home, then moving her 20 year old body so he could be closer to her or maybe even putting her through a meat works facility that may or may not have even existed at the time.

And that's just the last month
 

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Hi Kambo - ...... and that's about how long I've been on here 😳
 

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Hi Kambo - ...... and that's about how long I've been on here [emoji15]


No one needs to leave.
Please continue contributing.


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*Years ago WAPOL said the CSK case was analysed wrt 16(?) other homicides (of women?), and was found unrelated.

Does anyone know if these same cases that were once rejected have been retested with the more recent advances in DNA Forensic technology?

*will find MSM link

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ESH and Kambo - I didn't realise you guys felt that way about me being on Websleuths. You guys have been here a lot longer than me so don't leave - I will. I would like to say though that I never told lies I don't watch crime shows and I wasn't exposed for my story being contradicted. Anyway as I said DONT LEAVE - it's up to me to leave. I thought bringing in new ideas might be helpful not looked on as useless.

Annalise,

You need to stay, you've contributed more in the last few weeks than anyone. :stay:

As we're waiting for October the forum has gone a bit quiet and a few of us have been networking.
 

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No need to leave. I apologize for directing my frustration at the majority on to you. I think people really just need to chill and wait until the trial. SS is not going to be found by a member of this site looking at google maps or wandering around a pioneer grave yard in Kenwick. If she was somewhere obvious she wouldn't have been missing for 20 years. You don't think trained criminal investigators have looked at line theories and plotted this out on maps over the last two decades with access to more info than us. That's even if the accused is responsible. I just hope no one on here gets called to be on the jury as it would be a shame for you to have to decline.

It's hard to be impartial when you have been reading the accused is a serial masturbating, cross dressing, devil worshipping nazi with a gympie leg who shat his pants and was bullied in high school and ended up in a mental institution or private clinic to deal with a sexual dysfunction and was sexually abused by the pysc whilst he was taking steroids and bipolar medication (that made him chubby) scouting the outer suburbs of Perth in his UBD for dumps sites hiding trophies at little athletics, storing her body in the freezer at the family holiday home, then moving her 20 year old body so he could be closer to her or maybe even putting her through a meat works facility that may or may not have even existed at the time.

And that's just the last month

Kambo,

Your post was quiet lengthy and you've made a few points with regard to the forums posts. Over the last few months I've seen minimal discussion from some posters and a few that have made a great effort to keep the thread going and even some humour. Do you have you any suggestions which topics the forum should discuss?
 

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SS father received a call from a person who he thought was the CSK.

Looking into this further I found the below comments in previous WS posts.

"But one phone call in particular has stayed with him - the only one he believes is genuine - and which either came from the killer or someone who knows them.

It was at 2am on a Sunday morning shortly after Sarah went missing. The caller asked him, "Are you Sarah's father?"Don won't give details of what the man said but he still believes it wasn't a hoax.

The caller gave him a location - 5600ha of dense land and bush. Don went there but the size of the location and the dense vegetation meant looking was "hopeless".


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ler-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia-5/page9

Further posts in the above link mention that "The Westonia Common is 5600ha of salmon gum, morrell and gimlet woodlands of exceptional quality and area.

Spinnaker,

Interesting post. There's also Lancelin’s, Nilgen Nature Reserve which covers an area of around 5,600 hectares. Many threads ago the WS discussed that area. (5600h = 14,000 acres).
 

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(Note: pic is screen shot of YouTube clip so I hope you haven't tried clicking the little arrow to play. Sorry)

[video]https://youtu.be/eDwOdB5D0sA[/video]

Does anyone have a decent copy of the newspaper article featured in the "Reclaim The Night" YouTube video?

Article Title
"Fear and Loathing in Perth's Heart"



I've found access to this back issue of The Age newspaper, but I don't have a subscription.
Does anyone have a subscription to newspaper.com and The Age who could screen shot this page please?
https://www.newspapers.com/search/#lnd=1&dr_year=1998-1998&offset=149&t=3673
Saturday May 30th 1998 Edition please.
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Spinnaker,

Interesting post. There's also Lancelin’s, Nilgen Nature Reserve which covers an area of around 5,600 hectares. Many threads ago the WS discussed that area. (5600h = 14,000 acres).

This area seems more realistic as closer to Perth


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Long time reader (years online then signed up to the forum on Tapatalk a little while back) and first time poster.

I thought I'd share an experience I had when I was younger when I was attacked in an alley way in Heathridge close to my house. You can use Google maps to get an idea of what I'm talking about if you wish.

Early in 1993 (past March because it was already dark past 7pm), I walked out of my house on Ellendale Drive and entered a cauldersac called Crawley Grove. Between Crawley Grove and Fairlawn Gardens, there used to be an alley way (alley #1). Coming off Fairlawn Gardens, there was another alley way that led to Conidae Drive (alley #2). I believe that one is still there. The other one is not; I think they extended the fence lines of the properties either side.

As I walked down the alley #1, towards the end, I passed a guy with dark hair, taller than me, wearing a dark coloured tracksuit with dress shoes and carrying a briefcase type bag. That caught my attention because who the hell wears a tracksuit with dress shoes and carries a brief case? It was enough for 17yo me to turn around to look but he was gone. I believe that he came from Edgewater train station (had not been open long) but I can't confirm that as fact.

I entered alley #2 and when I got to the end, looked towards Day Place where a friend lived. It looked like no one was there so I turned around and headed back. Just over halfway down, the guy in the tracksuit was walking towards me. As I went to walk past, he bumped me with his shoulder quite hard and as I was spun off balance, he pulled my feet out from underneath me and I was taken to ground. Initially, I panicked and froze. He laying on top of me and I was pinned. I was only 45kg and he outweighed me. He moved his hand to the front of my pants and tried to get them down. He did have his hand in my pants at one point. I think what saved me was the drawstring was tied so tight, he wouldn't have been able to get them off easily. That and the fact that I then screamed like a motherf****r. I screamed for all I was worth. He then said in my ear "ok then" and got up and ran towards Conidae Drive. I went to the nearest house and had them call the Police.

The next day my dad took me to East Perth police station where I sat with a sketch artist and did the face composite thing. I then found out that this guy had attacked a girl in Kallaroo a few weeks before and our identikit pictures were almost identical. I was taken to the alley in the daylight too and you could clearly see where I hit the dirt off the concrete as my shoes had left big gouge marks in the sand.

I fell to pieces after that. Didn't want to go to school. Failed at English Lit. Developed this phobia of people touching my sides (just near my arm pits) that I still have today. I always wondered what was in that briefcase. Weapons? Rape kit? If I didn't scream, what would have happened to me? Would I have been seriously hurt? Killed even? Why was he wearing that tracksuit if he was carrying a briefcase? It was extremely obvious that I was attacked opportunistically but very intentionally because why turn back around and come after me?

I'm not saying this guy was BE. I'm not saying it wasn't. They're not that dissimilar in appearance anyway from memory. I wouldn't look at him now and say yeah that was the guy because I don't know. Even though I'm sketchy on the face details over time, I will not forget the dark hair, the clothes, the shoes, that briefcase and the sound of his voice.

He was never caught. I guess my point is that there was more than one lunatic on the loose terrorising girls in the 90's.


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SS father received a call from a person who he thought was the CSK.

Looking into this further I found the below comments in previous WS posts.

"But one phone call in particular has stayed with him - the only one he believes is genuine - and which either came from the killer or someone who knows them.

It was at 2am on a Sunday morning shortly after Sarah went missing. The caller asked him, "Are you Sarah's father?"Don won't give details of what the man said but he still believes it wasn't a hoax.

The caller gave him a location - 5600ha of dense land and bush. Don went there but the size of the location and the dense vegetation meant looking was "hopeless".


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ler-1996-1997-Perth-Western-Australia-5/page9

Further posts in the above link mention that "The Westonia Common is 5600ha of salmon gum, morrell and gimlet woodlands of exceptional quality and area.


"DON SPIERS: Our situation's a little bit different to the Glennons' and the Rimmers', because their two girls have been found. We still haven't had either of the questions answered as to where Sarah is and what's actually happened to her. Another big problem that we've had has been clairvoyants. They have been a huge torment to myself and my family in giving cryptic clues as to where Sarah might be. I remember one night early days I was down Salter Point, you know, thrashing around the swampy areas down there at 11 o'clock at night. Um...probably walking around bawling my eyes out and getting nowhere. I mean, a lot of times I've known I shouldn't have listened, but I've always thought that maybe they're using that excuse of being a clairvoyant to give me some honest facts."

http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2003/s1042100.htm
 

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Lol that pretty much sums up the last 14 threads!!! Gold!


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Interesting comment by Caporn back on 13th June 1997:

[FONT=verdana, sans-serif]"Caporn claimed that "98 per cent of the investigation is traditional, but we're doing things we've never done before because we're not prepared to get up to double figures [of victims] without trying to force a [breakthrough]".
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[FONT=verdana, sans-serif]No wonder Perth was in a panic! Caporn talking about possibility of double figures for the number of murder victims!

http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/app...0&sp=adv&clsPage=1&docID=news970613_0194_0458


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Ages ago sleuths discussed the existence of a "knife" in the possession of LW when he was apprehended by WAPOL.
This quote should clear this up:
"And what about the claim that he had a knife in his car? "I was just explaining this to some people at work today. I suppose technically it would have been correct [that there was a knife]. But all it was was just a key-shaped thing that opened up with a blade of about 1.5 to 2cm long. I suppose technically it was a knife. But it was closer to a nailfile."
http://newsstore.fairfax.com.au/app...0&sp=adv&clsPage=1&docID=news981128_0538_8966
 
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