Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

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  1. Foolio79

    Foolio79 Member

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    I strongly doubt Donald Victor Morey, aka Matusevich, is ex SAS. He is a career criminal with convictions and prison stints stretching back to the 70's.
     


  2. crabstick

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    There is enough reports to suggest he is ex army. Im not sure how old he is. Yes, there is a few guys around that use the Im ex SAS as a shield when they fear someone might give them a clobber. He might have been a mechanic?

    Selling $10000 bundles of amphetamine is organised crime connections.

     
  3. Mo Joe

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    KK may have been his work vehicle? JR and CG may have been his personal vehicle?
     
  4. JWSleuth

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    Could it possible that csk is dead, or in jail but there is an accomplice that they can't quite link so they don't announce yet? So many similarities in some cases..
     
  5. crabstick

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    There has been article written that some POIs would not be subject to a fair trial even if they went to court. They made mention the court would have to be in potentially another country but for the most part. Some POIs will never receive a fair trial.
    Ill see if I can find it for you.

     
  6. crabstick

    crabstick Former Member

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    Our 'Bright Spier' in the 'Dark Cloak' with the 'Beautiful Knife' was in defence or was knocked back from SAS??? Jilted he sought revenge with some sort of proof his worth? We will never hear the case because he was dealt with elsewhere?

    Criminal profilers said there was more than likely a military background. Maybe from overseas?

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  7. Frankie1972

    Frankie1972 Verified Insider - Claremont SK

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    In what year did they announce that CG was talking to someone in a car
     
  8. Bartholemeus

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    Quite sure it was 2008. The CIA doco.
     
  9. Frankie1972

    Frankie1972 Verified Insider - Claremont SK

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    my mate said the car may of stop back in 1997. why do you think they waited so long to tell the public.
     
  10. Mo Joe

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    What are the words in that picture?
     
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    Question answered.
     
  12. Bartholemeus

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    Could be for a number of reasons;

    1. They felt they needed to keep the information private in case a POI turned up who drove a similar car. The ol' lead the suspect into a lie trick. Keep cards close to chest, wait for POI to lie and then shazam! Gotcha. Here's the proof you are lying! Only problem is they don't have a plate or something that would confirm such a person is lying.

    2. Because a Commodore wagon doesn't match LW's car. It could potentially hard conviction chances. This makes sense up until say 2004. But what about pre-LW and post Schramm? Surely it should have been released?

    3. It's not actually true. For one reason or other Macro felt the best way of progress was to fabricate this. Seems highly unlikely.

    4. They weren't confident enough of it being true, and/or because the make and model were unclear, decided it's probably best to keep it private. This is mostly likely IMO. Bit of point 2 also thrown in maybe.
     
  13. crabstick

    crabstick Former Member

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    Here is a reminder about the DNA that some users keeps saying doesn't exist.

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    This woman said she couldnt handle her alcohol, but had she been drugged via a drink spike without knowing it at the Cottesloe? Her friends left her passed out in the car. Normally people vomit before they pass out. She would have never known, along with hundreds of other women that all of a sudden feel drunk without knowing what has happening to them. A hypnotic effect.

    So the offender was at least 30 or older in 1995. He could have been 15 years older than Sarah. Spiers was 18, Rimmer 23. Does that sound like a boyfriend of Sarah Spiers? Does JRs mystery man look 30+ ??? Sounds like Police have to go back an interview Karrakatta victim and friends at the Cottesloe hotel.

    So she was literally transferred from one car to another, out the front of the Cottesloe hotel in front hundreds of people. That is one hell of a risk in full view of a pub and friends. He sat in the carpark waiting for her?

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  15. Psi

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    Which service stations did LW's family own?
     
  16. Psi

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    My family owned a service station/workshop back in the 80s. I had keys as I used to open up for them at 6am. I was also on call for the occasional night time smash n grab (for smokes) because I lived closer. It would have been a handy intermediate crime scene. Waste oil was drained into an underground tank that would get pumped out periodically, a good place to drain blood. Lots of trays, solvents, tools, ropes. Just a thought.
     
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  17. crabstick

    crabstick Former Member

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    I would like to know that but he should be dismissed by DNA as not the prime suspect. Police have his DNA. But maybe he had a wingman whose DNA it is? Someone from scouts?

    You see, when Lance was young, these girls parents may have had their cars filled with petrol by a bowser assistant at some point. Ciaras mother worked at Iona as a teacher. Then he worked in a bank. He could have checked bank balances, transactions everywhere. Then he worked main roads with access to databases etc.
    But he has been cleared.

    Cars that you could borrow in the middle of vehicle service that had number plates not showing the driver who had lost his licence. Any car. Could have been a Commodore wagon in service. Did it service taxis?

    Police said he would polish his car a lot. I think its referring to OCD. Or was it a panel beaters? Im trying to stay objective, ignoring cleared POIs.

     
  18. crabstick

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    The friends of the 17 year old, left her passed out in a car at the Cottesloe hotel car park on her own witht he doors unlocked. The 17 year old somehow transferred from one car to another with a 30+ year old man in full view of the hotel. She was passed out and cant recall the transferring between cars. That is really really pissed when you are moving and not knowing.
    Was someone working behind the bar at the Cottesloe? The friends would remember something untoward. But the 17 year old wont.

    In 1995 he has a van. In March 1997 he has a Holden Commodore that has only been released as a model approx 1 year. Witnesses say there is multiple occupants of the vehicle.

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  19. Bartholemeus

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    No one is claiming it doesn't exist. Please stop making things up.
     
  20. Mo Joe

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    Tall?
    Dark hair?
    Mid 30s?
    Whiskers?
    Strong?
    Drove van?
    Drove Commodore?
    Right Handed?
    Connection to screen printing?
     
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