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I kind of turn off when I see all these numbers and suggestions. I have seen this one before and believe it might have been discussed with the references on this site before. I am not sure how the reference of 20 October 1992 came up but it was the date the Royal Commission into WA Inc report of 2000 pages was brought down. It may have been brought up to suit the rest of the numbers provided.

"On October 20, 1992, the commissioners brought down their findings in six volumes totalling a massive 2000 pages. A seventh volume followed a month later."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/...rom-theeulogies/2005/07/19/1121538972499.html

Link to Hansard on the day: http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/Hansard%5Chansard1870to1995.nsf/vwMainBackground/19921020_Council.pdf/$File/19921020_Council.pdf

If you think there is something significant about that date maybe there was an attack on that date. So searching the newspapers in WA may reveal something significant there. I googled the references with regard to Perth getting the references above and then searched trove but Canberra newspapers are about the only ones that go up to that time.

The actual reference to the Article mention JR going to John XXIII college when she went to Hollywood High.

I think suggesting that "the women who were abducted all have names which originated in Ireland, England, Wales or Scotland (Aryan)" is clutching at straws because in the immigration policies meant that people descended or came from European backgrounds.

Thanks for the links DRT. It could possibly be either of those on 20 Oct 1992. Announcing a Royal Commission (or a Parliamentary Inquiry which became the Royal Commission) into the Policeforce or the handing down of the WA Inc Royal Commission.

If the writer wasn't schizophrenic (and I think this is a person who is extremely well trained in mapping and spatial positioning being very well acquainted with SK, so quite possibly) it was almost written like a mathematical formula.
The equation being 20 October 1992 affecting each of the clues. I wouldn't have bought it up except the writer has been able to put the clues into Google maps to match this 2007 blog clues.

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an address I lived as at 20 10 1992 which was unit 36, of a street number 46 in Glendalough (Irish name)

Putting the co ordinates from SteveG's December post into Goodle maps it came up with 25e/47 Herdsman Parade Moondyne Gardens on the google map when his coordinate for Bakers Hill are entered. Moondyne Gardens Glendalough . This matched the Moondyne Concention Centre, the NE point of my star pattern. It was too much of a co-incidence not to mention.

36.46 Moondyne Convention Centre 6008
36.468008 or
36.46 Glendalough 6016
36.466016


the address of my parents (Catholic) as at 20 10 1992 was house number 126 in a street in another suburb

Holy Rosary School on Angelico Woodlands. However you get 126 Williamstown on this corner on a google search. Williamstown ST only goes up to 46 in reality before turning into Rosewood. There is no number 126 Williamstown ST and yet there it is on the corner of Holy Rosary School and Angelico St to match this clue. How does that happen?

126.16132 (Williams located 161 kilometres south-southeast of the state capital, Perth along Albany Highway and 32 kilometres west of Narrogin.)
my employer's address as at 20 10 1992 was number 56 in a street in West Perth

56 Ord St is WRAYS
It is in capital letters and that usually converts back to numbers according to the clues for number and letter code. 23(W).18(R)1(A)25(Y)19(S)
23.1812519

These could be northern hemisphere.

Birth 1961

Postcode Claremont 6010

Ignore 0 and 9's (numerology) 1661


20 10 1992 2112
 

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SteveG's images of Eyre Hwy also me to a Unit in Osprey Close The Rise in City beach. 21e/129 Drabble Rd City Beach 6015 (There is no 21 e unit at this address, no units with the letter e and no units numbered up to 21))

129 16.12.21E You may recognise these co-ordinates as not only were they in SteveG's Eyre Hwy .jpg they were in the Tiger Moth video.

Remember when the narrator somehow found the letters LI PL BA in first and furtherest and converted them to 12 9 16 12 2 1 with the Letter number code??!

Osprey Close= Sea eagle The Rise Close?
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Somehow SteveG, the Tiger Moth video creator can get his clues into Google maps. Is this someone who creates mathematical algorithms for Google maps and has managed to slip a few private ones in there to match CSK clues? Is he consulted on spatial body positioning patterns because he seems an expert? Does this knowledge come from a high level of mapping training and use? Or is this just a fluke?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...997-Perth-Western-Australia-7-*ARREST*/page15
 

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"Somehow SteveG, the Tiger Moth video creator can get his clues into Google maps." Quote Innerchild.
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Where is the proof that the former member steveg created tigermoth video ?
 

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Petedavo, good post thanks for the guidance. I've tried to answer your post.

1. WAPOL have referred to SS disappearance for 20 years, there's been no reported sightings of her and no access to her bank account.
2. SS disappeared from the same area as the other two victims (JR & CG), only a short timeframe beforehand and shouldn't be dismissed as a coincidence.
3. That's a difficult question, how can we establish whether or not the same person is responsible for the disappearance of SS - by locating the body.
4. I believe, if we fathom the holding site, we can predict the d-site with some accuracy, thus locating the body of SS.
Dunno about 3 and 4. Linking the accused to two dump sites might only prove the accused was there. Doesn't prove what the accused done there, if anything. Without knowing what that evidence is I dunno if it proves any more that the accused visited the sites, nor do I know if it proves how that evidence got there.
However the accused is charged with murder. Have to wait till the court case I suppose to see how the prosecution links whatever they allege was found at the two sites to the alleged acts of murder or disposal of the bodies.
However having given those necessary caveats, as a speculative exercise, to figure out possible sites of SS, without Subjudice, it might be that SS was disposed in a similar way to CG and JR.
If so, then out in the open, not more than an hours drive. I would guess from the KK case that he doesn't care about discovery the next day as long as the site is just hidden enough from view at night to prevent interruption. In this regard I don't think that a lot of trouble went into hiding SS and that not finding her has just been pure luck.
If the assumptions in this purely speculative exercises are wrong, then not.
Again this isn't about accusing the accused of anything, which would be Subjudicial.

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SteveG's images of Eyre Hwy also me to a Unit in Osprey Close The Rise in City beach. 21e/129 Drabble Rd City Beach 6015 (There is no 21 e unit at this address, no units with the letter e and no units numbered up to 21))

129 16.12.21E You may recognise these co-ordinates as not only were they in SteveG's Eyre Hwy .jpg they were in the Tiger Moth video.

Remember when the narrator somehow found the letters LI PL BA in first and furtherest and converted them to 12 9 16 12 2 1 with the Letter number code??!

Osprey Close= Sea eagle The Rise Close?
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Somehow SteveG, the Tiger Moth video creator can get his clues into Google maps. Is this someone who creates mathematical algorithms for Google maps and has managed to slip a few private ones in there to match CSK clues? Is he consulted on spatial body positioning patterns because he seems an expert? Does this knowledge come from a high level of mapping training and use? Or is this just a fluke?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...997-Perth-Western-Australia-7-*ARREST*/page15

Innerchild,

With regard to the units at 129 Drabble Rd, according to a property report they were built about 1993. There's about 24 units in the complex. The units at 125 and 129 appear to be the same complex. Drabble contains a few of the same letters as Bradley. Bradle
 

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CV, I'm no expert on water bores/wells but from what I remember my Father telling me....domestic are usually around 4&1/2 inches & commercial or farming around 6&1/2 inches diameter. They are then lined with a casing which in the past was usually steel (which would eventually corrode) but these days its pvc piping. Inside the casing is pump shaft that draws the water out. They go down as deep as they need to go to get the quality of water you need e.g. ground water or aquifer. In my prev message, I was describing a large hole where steel bore casing had obviously coroded away & surface water / rain had eroded dirt away from the original well shaft.
 

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Innerchild,
I read that blog post and its writer sounds like he has schizophrenia. I don't mean that in a derogatory way. His style and train of thought matches how other people with this disorder write and think things through. That's no slam on him, and there have been a number of very smart people who struggle with schizophrenia who are able to solve complex problems, but this theory he posted veered off into too many directions, only some of them following any sort of logical path, for me to give it much consideration.

I was trying to reply to your post without finding it before. I can disregards all the German (sorry spooks) and nazi parts of the blog and must admit haven't read much more than one of the parts of the blog. However I think he is writing in a way similar to a mathematical formula. Anyhow that's just the way I look at it.
 

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Innerchild,

With regard to the units at 129 Drabble Rd, according to a property report they were built about 1993. There's about 24 units in the complex. The units at 125 and 129 appear to be the same complex. Drabble contains a few of the same letters as Bradley. Bradle
127 and 129 share a common driveway and these units are known as Osprey Close, The Rise. It isn't far from the Hale West Coast Hwy intersection.
 

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"Somehow SteveG, the Tiger Moth video creator can get his clues into Google maps." Quote Innerchild.
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Where is the proof that the former member steveg created tigermoth video ?

Thanks for posting a link to the video metic. I found it haunting. I'm sorry I should have said SteveG or the 2007 blogger got his clues into Google maps. Steve posted his clue from the video 16th Dec 2016 #231 Quote

Looks like there are some capitalized letters in there. I get LI PL BA

Maybe GPS coordinates in code?

LIPLBA = 12 9 12 12 2 1 end Quote
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He then posted the .jpg of Eyre Highway 129 16.12.21E
This is just one example. There maybe a ms g as well. He show great skill or proficiency in mapping or from Wiki The master, or sailing master, was a historical rank for a naval officer trained in and responsible for the navigation of a sailing vessel. The rank can be equated to a professional seaman and specialist in navigation (sorry didn't mean to bold and can't get rid of it).JMO
 

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CV, I'm no expert on water bores/wells but from what I remember my Father telling me....domestic are usually around 4&1/2 inches & commercial or farming around 6&1/2 inches diameter. They are then lined with a casing which in the past was usually steel (which would eventually corrode) but these days its pvc piping. Inside the casing is pump shaft that draws the water out. They go down as deep as they need to go to get the quality of water you need e.g. ground water or aquifer. In my prev message, I was describing a large hole where steel bore casing had obviously coroded away & surface water / rain had eroded dirt away from the original well shaft.

ESH,
I suppose if the older type (pioneer) shafts were hand-dug, they'd need to be wide enough, for the person to get inside to brick up. Don't think they had drills back then.
 

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CV could you please help locate old abandoned wells in Perth and surrounds? Some may be registered Historical points of interest (PtOi), while others may be located on private property but close to roads and easily seen by passers-by.


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Spooks,
Getting back to you about your query. There doesn't appear to be
a register. The information was probably only recorded on the property's certificate of title.
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Innerchild,

With regard to the units at 129 Drabble Rd, according to a property report they were built about 1993. There's about 24 units in the complex. The units at 125 and 129 appear to be the same complex. Drabble contains a few of the same letters as Bradley. Bradle

Perhaps a relative or friend rented one of those units. When the marriage broke up I can't imagine it being easy going back to live with mum and dad. Sometimes people house sit.

As mentioned before, City Beach is the centre of Wellard and Eglinton. Could this be the holding point.

These are only my thoughts and opinion.
 

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Listed below are various destinations calculated from *City Beach to boat ramps and from that particular boat ramp to Rottenest Island (couldn’t establish calculation to Rottenest Trench).

(Rottenest Trench is 44.5 km or 24 nmi west of Fremantle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth_Canyon
An average speedboat can achieve that in just over an hour at cruising speed of 20 knots)

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City Beach is central suburb of both Wellard and Eglinton

DestinationKms to boat ramp (via road)Kms to Rot/Island
(via boat)
Kms travelled Total
Mosman (Johnston St)
Minimal travel distance from inner Swan River to Ocean
10.82333.8
East Fremantle (Pt Walter Leeuwin 2 ramps)
Minimal travel distance from inner Swan River to Ocean
142438
Subiaco (2 ramps at Hackett Dr)
Substantial travel distance from inner Swan River to Ocean
7.730.338
Hillarys (boat ramp)17.431.148.5
Woodman Point (boat ramp)23.127.350.4
Ocean Reef (boat ramp)233558
Mindarie Keys (boat ramp) 30.839.870.6
Wellard kms (by road)48.5
Eglinton kms (by road)49.6

Note: Offhand I know of two boat ramps owned by private clubs (Woodman Point & Fremantle). During the 1990s the club at Fremantle offered socializing and budget dining. Woodman Point is a similar distance travelled as Wellard & Eglinton. If the family had a boat perhaps they were members at the Woodman Point club, and had a boat penned. JMO.

http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/metropolitan-boat-ramps.asp (private boat ramps not included)

https://www.google.com.au/maps
 

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The boat club I was referring to near Woodman Point is called Cockburn powerboats. There's two boat ramps at that location, one for the public, the other inside the club. Members had a key to open the gate, back then, and also kept boats on the land inside the locked gate. http://cockburnpowerboats.com.au/ I'm not suggesting anyone at that club had any evil intentions. JMO.
 

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entire Post snipped for brevity and because I had fat fingers
Many a time I've seen powerboats simply parking on the beach at Peppermint Grove. Owners get out with their kids and have a picnic and muck around all day, then get back on and leave. Probably against Swan River rules, but I've seen it happen at Matilda Bay, Point Walter, even Garret Road etc.
IMO, if someone was going to use a boat, they'd have it handy, run up on a beach or tied upto a jetty maybe, and not on a trailer. The trailer could be unhitched and parked near the Freshwater Bay boat ramp after launching the boat. A 20 minute walk back to the car after mooring the boat near the Jetty at the end of Bay View Tce or running it onto the beach there. Even shorter walk back to the car if the boat ramps at Claremont Yacht Club can be accessed by the Public.
However, I'm dubious about whether anything known from MSM about the CSK would suggest that a boat could've been used in any part of it. There would be far easier options IMO if you're into a n ocean burial, like dumping a body off a groyne or even in the harbour on an outgoing tide or something. Maybe it's just me, but using a boat single handedly beyond Rottnest at night in rough seas just seems too risky. Maybe it was tried with SS and abandoned as a bad idea. Who knows? Only whoever is responsible.

PS I've seen powerboats with only one person onboard leaving in the middle of the night, whilst I've been fishing in Fremantle Harbour, so it's not totally improbable. Maybe I'm just too much of a land lubber and having been seasick whenever I've caught the South Perth Ferry, putting too much doubt on the idea from my own paradigm.
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Many a time I've seen powerboats simply parking on the beach at Peppermint Grove. Owners get out with their kids and have a picnic and muck around all day, then get back on and leave. Probably against Swan River rules, but I've seen it happen at Matilda Bay, Point Walter, even Garret Road etc.
IMO, if someone was going to use a boat, they'd have it handy, run up on a beach or tied upto a jetty maybe, and not on a trailer. The trailer could be unhitched and parked near the Freshwater Bay boat ramp after launching the boat. A 20 minute walk back to the car after mooring the boat near the Jetty at the end of Bay View Tce or running it onto the beach there. Even shorter walk back to the car if the boat ramps at Claremont Yacht Club can be accessed by the Public.
However, I'm dubious about whether anything known from MSM about the CSK would suggest that a boat could've been used in any part of it. There would be far easier options IMO if you're into a n ocean burial, like dumping a body off a groyne or even in the harbour on an outgoing tide or something. Maybe it's just me, but using a boat single handedly beyond Rottnest at night in rough seas just seems too risky. Maybe it was tried with SS and abandoned as a bad idea. Who knows? Only whoever is responsible.

PS I've seen powerboats with only one person onboard leaving in the middle of the night, whilst I've been fishing in Fremantle Harbour, so it's not totally improbable. Maybe I'm just too much of a land lubber and having been seasick whenever I've caught the South Perth Ferry, putting too much doubt on the idea from my own paradigm.
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My husband and I had a small powerboat in the 1990s. It was only about 18ft, but took the two of us to launch it and bring it in again. There was usually a queue at the boat ramp.
Although the boat scenario doesn't seem viable, at least we WS have looked into the matter. CV
 

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Thanks for posting a link to the video metic. I found it haunting. I'm sorry I should have said SteveG or the 2007 blogger got his clues into Google maps. Steve posted his clue from the video 16th Dec 2016 #231 Quote

Looks like there are some capitalized letters in there. I get LI PL BA

Maybe GPS coordinates in code?

LIPLBA = 12 9 12 12 2 1 end Quote

He then posted the .jpg of Eyre Highway 129 16.12.21E
This is just one example. There maybe a ms g as well. He show great skill or proficiency in mapping or from Wiki The master, or sailing master, was a historical rank for a naval officer trained in and responsible for the navigation of a sailing vessel. The rank can be equated to a professional seaman and specialist in navigation (sorry didn't mean to bold and can't get rid of it).JMO
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GPS coordinates for the Airforce Museum are 32 2' 51"S 115 51' 23".

I see the Tigermoth there but am unsure of the connection to anything else. I know the museum has been around since 1979. I know there is airforce association housing there some of which has probably been around since it opened. I know there has been some units built after that but couldn't give you timelines. The outer units tended to be As it is populated with retired people some who have a lot of time on their hands I don't think you could get away with much there without it being witnessed. Just trying to get the connection. Are you suggesting the hint may be about the sea?

CTRL-B gives you bold or takes it off.
 

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Innerchild,

With regard to the units at 129 Drabble Rd, according to a property report they were built about 1993. There's about 24 units in the complex. The units at 125 and 129 appear to be the same complex. Drabble contains a few of the same letters as Bradley. Bradle

Letters make more sense to me sometimes than numbers. I wanted to see if I could get you further.

One twenty nine Drabble Road

Bradley Rob Edwar

Missing the ERT and the DS if you take away the One and the nine and leaves TNT.

As much as a stretch as all those numbers and coordinates.
 

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If we translate the last few pages into Chinese and find the most used character, then search for a tree that looks just like it - maybe we'll get lucky & find her.
Just a thought...
 

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Letters make more sense to me sometimes than numbers. I wanted to see if I could get you further.

One twenty nine Drabble Road

Bradley Rob Edwar

Missing the ERT and the DS if you take away the One and the nine and leaves TNT.

As much as a stretch as all those numbers and coordinates.

Drt,

Thanks. Last night I spent quite a bit of time looking at it and couldn't find any more than you. Perhaps that's all there is.

I've also been looking at the other paragraph in relation to Iona Presentation College "is also representative of another popular radio personality who no longer works in Perth". Is that an anagram of someone called Nola or Ian?

http://claremontserialkillings.blogspot.com.au/


Also, with regard to the Tigermoth plane. There's a pilot at Jandakot airport who provides joy rides in a mustard-yellow Tigermoth. Each day, at the same time, it went over the WC Canning Vale which is next to Jandakot Airport. Perhaps it went over the house in Huntingdale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF1a_keROXM
 
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