Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #21

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There also seems to be a twisted belief (amongst predators/fraudsters) that it’s the victims fault for being so naive/‘easily’ swindled etc. They don’t seem to have the same default of trust, as most people have. And they prey on this. They’re so dangerous.
 
MrsEmmaPeel said:
So true. I was married to a man who perpetrated fraud. He was the smartest person I've ever known and could have had a brilliant career at many things. He only defrauded his family, and needless to say, his childhood was horrible. I always believed he was subconsciously wreaking revenge. The reasons don't matter. What matters is the wake of destruction fraudsters and con-artists leave. My children are still affected by learning our life was a sham, and their father was a crook.
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It’s very painful for anyone to go through that experience. (I am currently married to someone like that and can’t see any way out that would not lead to financial ruin and/or murder). Unfortunately these people seem to be driven by their twisted emotional brain (with an overwhelming desire for power and control), their rational brain only being used as a backup. I do believe it’s still important to understand and articulate their behaviour in order to be able to take preventative measures, call it out and put a stop to it. Imagine Marion in 1997, had she gone to the police, what would she be reporting? And what would the response have been? I’m guessing she would have been told she brought it upon herself. Even today, we are only just starting to get coercive control legislation implemented in Australia. It’s taken years of discussion and analysis of the behaviour of these people plus many murders. At least 26 years later we have words to describe what RB did to his victims and there would be a sizeable portion of our population who would agree that RB’s behaviour was criminal and that he should face serious consequences. However, we are still waiting for justice.
 
CuriousKat99 said:
It’s very painful for anyone to go through that experience. (I am currently married to someone like that and can’t see any way out that would not lead to financial ruin and/or murder). Unfortunately these people seem to be driven by their twisted emotional brain (with an overwhelming desire for power and control), their rational brain only being used as a backup. I do believe it’s still important to understand and articulate their behaviour in order to be able to take preventative measures, call it out and put a stop to it. Imagine Marion in 1997, had she gone to the police, what would she be reporting? And what would the response have been? I’m guessing she would have been told she brought it upon herself. Even today, we are only just starting to get coercive control legislation implemented in Australia. It’s taken years of discussion and analysis of the behaviour of these people plus many murders. At least 26 years later we have words to describe what RB did to his victims and there would be a sizeable portion of our population who would agree that RB’s behaviour was criminal and that he should face serious consequences. However, we are still waiting for justice.
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Well said! Our system is wrong and needs to change. This ‘man’ is still free to do as he pleases. How wrong is that. I wouldn’t put it past him to be swindling online right now. Yet he’s free to do it! Unbelievable.
 
MrsEmmaPeel said:
Tell me more, please!
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it's a bit like TLV style of podcast as in these are long-term missing or murdered people and the host interviews and follows leads. Tips and help from the public keep the cases changing direction as he gets them, the first three cases are NZ and he has just moved to Aus to take on a case there.
 
FWIW Sally's posts on IG are very upbeat, and her smiling face is a welcome sight in my feed. I admire her resilience so much. The Marion FB site is still not allowing the team to post any photos. Seems like just an annoying tech glitch, but in order to stay connected Sally is using IG.
 
Good news!
From MPMB fb page:
Exciting news ! Laura Richards from Crime Analyst podcast is covering Marion's case on October 10th !!!

If you are on Instagram, could you please head on over & give the post below a ❤ & a comment ✏ ... it is amazing to have Laura covering this case, let's get behind her !

Joni
 
Listening to Laura's episode about Marion and the date of the next step of the inquest is not until next year! I hope from now until then they can find more things against this dirty old man. I was hoping it would be before the end of the year and not drag out for so long. Fingers crossed they find something concrete against him
 
Martinie said:
Listening to Laura's episode about Marion and the date of the next step of the inquest is not until next year! I hope from now until then they can find more things against this dirty old man. I was hoping it would be before the end of the year and not drag out for so long. Fingers crossed they find something concrete against him
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Ooh I missed that bit. Poor Sally. And all the potential female victims given he’s living freely amongst us. I can’t believe our systems leave older women so vulnerable to this predator. I love that Laura Richard’s has dedicated 2 podcasts to this story so far. I pray that they are the first 2 of many many more.
 
KinseyFan said:
Ooh I missed that bit. Poor Sally. And all the potential female victims given he’s living freely amongst us. I can’t believe our systems leave older women so vulnerable to this predator. I love that Laura Richard’s has dedicated 2 podcasts to this story so far. I pray that they are the first 2 of many many more.
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It's mentioned in the last 5:30 mins! I agree, there needs to be laws around this type of conning, because it isn't fair.
 
Martinie said:
Listening to Laura's episode about Marion and the date of the next step of the inquest is not until next year! I hope from now until then they can find more things against this dirty old man. I was hoping it would be before the end of the year and not drag out for so long. Fingers crossed they find something concrete against him
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I’m not 100% sure that a date for the inquest findings has been published as yet. I got the impression that at least some of Laura’s interview with SL was recorded earlier this year, and that they were actually talking about May 2023, not May 2024.
 
Greetings Friends -- I am only getting started on this very sad and mysterious story after discovering the case with Laura Richard's first episode on Crime Analyst.

I will try to finish reading Thread #1 and have gotten up to the coroner's inquisition in the podcast. I don't think I will be able to go back and read all the 20 previous threads but can tell by initials being used in recent posts some new people have come into this case.

Without breaking rules, is there a way to provide some of the more recent names so I can translate the initials? Or would someone suggest a Thread where things really started changing, a short cut where I should jump in? (Please don't suggest Thread #2 :eek:)

That wonderful Sally sure deserves some kind of commendation for her smarts, persistence, and the time she has devoted to her mother' disappearance. What a woman. What love and loyalty she has shown all these years.
 
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