Found Deceased AUSTRALIA - Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, 14, last seen on Henry Street in Launceston, Tasmania, 30 April 2023 *arrest*

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From ABC article below, which is concerning IMO:

"Last week, her grandmother Michelle Hubbard said her granddaughter was polite, affectionate and "not very street savvy" and described her as trusting."


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What bothers me most is from this article, also from the grandmother:

Grandmother of 'trusting' Tasmanian girl, 14, missing for four days pleads with her to get in touch

"She's had some mental health issues and has been struggling with those."

She's fourteen, living out of a homeless shelter, and mentally ill. Now, we don't know what that means - depression, self harm, the beginnings of a condition that could include psychosis - bipolar/schizophrenia... all of that is on the table. I know the latter two often come later in life, but I had one good friend whose daughter was regularly in and out of psych wards before the age of sixteen because she had what was obviously bipolar but frustratingly, her paediatric psych didn't want to medicate her yet because she was 'too young'... this was a girl that was suicidal! So she would get put in a ward when things got awful, where they would medicate her, and once she was stabilised she was turfed out with no meds to cope as best she could. This went on for years. And I also have a good friend who is schizophrenic. They were symptomatic - hearing voices, delusions, paranoia - by age twelve. So these things can begin that young, not just in a predrome way, but fully manifested conditions.

They're looking in the river. I really hope that she's just taken off and lost her phone. But it's been a long time, and she's not been seen, not logged in to social media, nothing. If she's in the river, I just hope they find her, and that her grandmother gets to mourn her, bury her. It's going to be so much worse if she ends up being one of those who just vanish and are never found.

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A community search is underway for missing Tasmanian teenager Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, who has not been seen or heard from for 10 days.

The 14-year-old was last seen in an area near Henry Street in Launceston, near the North Esk River, on April 30.

Much of the police search so far has centred around the river, with community members joining search efforts for the first time from today.

Due to operational reasons, community members have previously been unable to assist.

The organisers of a Facebook group called "Bringing Shyanne-Lee home", which has more than 2,200 members, have been keeping in contact with police over any assistance they can offer.

Only 20 volunteers were allowed to assist in the police line searches, which began from Henry Street on Thursday morning.

Searchers wearing high-vis "search crew" vests were seen crossing the bridge over the North Esk River, where Shyanne-Lee was last seen.

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What bothers me most is from this article, also from the grandmother:

Grandmother of 'trusting' Tasmanian girl, 14, missing for four days pleads with her to get in touch

"She's had some mental health issues and has been struggling with those."

She's fourteen, living out of a homeless shelter, and mentally ill. Now, we don't know what that means - depression, self harm, the beginnings of a condition that could include psychosis - bipolar/schizophrenia... all of that is on the table. I know the latter two often come later in life, but I had one good friend whose daughter was regularly in and out of psych wards before the age of sixteen because she had what was obviously bipolar but frustratingly, her paediatric psych didn't want to medicate her yet because she was 'too young'... this was a girl that was suicidal! So she would get put in a ward when things got awful, where they would medicate her, and once she was stabilised she was turfed out with no meds to cope as best she could. This went on for years. And I also have a good friend who is schizophrenic. They were symptomatic - hearing voices, delusions, paranoia - by age twelve. So these things can begin that young, not just in a predrome way, but fully manifested conditions.

They're looking in the river. I really hope that she's just taken off and lost her phone. But it's been a long time, and she's not been seen, not logged in to social media, nothing. If she's in the river, I just hope they find her, and that her grandmother gets to mourn her, bury her. It's going to be so much worse if she ends up being one of those who just vanish and are never found.

MOO
I hope this question doesn't seem ignorant, but are more rights/freedoms granted to minors in Australia than in the US? In the US, a homeless 14 year old would be returned to family or sent to social services (for better or worse, as you know our system is hopelessly underfunded and overburdened). A child could not live in a homeless shelter solo in the US. Am I misunderstanding the youth shelter or are 14 year olds allowed to make more decisions in Australia?
 

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I hope this question doesn't seem ignorant, but are more rights/freedoms granted to minors in Australia than in the US? In the US, a homeless 14 year old would be returned to family or sent to social services (for better or worse, as you know our system is hopelessly underfunded and overburdened). A child could not live in a homeless shelter solo in the US. Am I misunderstanding the youth shelter or are 14 year olds allowed to make more decisions in Australia?
I imagine a lot of kids accessing this service would be children whose homelives are difficult for one reason or another.

If, say, a child has a parent who is violent when drunk, it may be that if they know the parent will be drinking, they will judge it safer to sleep rough in a park or couchsurf with a casual acquaintance than go home. This kind of service is safer than both those options. It is not a longterm solution. It gives a kid a place to crash for the night, and maybe a hot meal.

These places operate because there is a need, and because there is a bond of trust. If a kid turns up seeking a safe place to sleep and the staff automatically call the cops or social services, word would get around and NO child in need would trust they could use it without winding up being delivered to their guardians or a group home. There will be times the staff will call those services, but there would be very specific circumstances that need to be met.

I will caveat this with I have never worked for this kind of refuge, but I did volunteer at a charity that supplied condoms and safe injecting equipment to help prefent the spread of HIV and other STIs. Our clients came from all walks of life, but at least one of our clients (who claimed she was eighteen) was clearly much younger. She was a survival sex worker who walked the strip and a heroin user. We were careful about the questions we asked her, because we knew that if she did not trust us, she wouldn't come and get the supplies that kept her safe, but also, if we knew her precise age, it would be mandatory for us to report. We walked the line, she kept her trust with us, and kept coming in for supplies. I think when she came of age and told us she had, some of the other staff got her a birthday cake to celebrate. I ran into her a couple of years after that, and she looked good, said she was off the smack and on a methadone program. I think of her often, and hope she has had a good life.

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Police are stepping up the search for a missing teenager in northern Tasmania who hasn't been seen or heard from in 10 days.

Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, 14, was last seen near Henry Street, in Launceston, near the North Esk River, at about 8.30pm on Sunday, April 30.

Police, including specialist units, are returning to the river today for another search for the teenager and any of her belongings.

"On Thursday specialist police officers from search and rescue, our dive squad, and the Westpac rescue helicopter will also be deployed to search the North Esk River," Inspector Craig Fox said.

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Friday, 12 May 2023 - 9:43 am.

Police investigations are ongoing to locate missing 14-year-old Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, with further river searches occurring today, and forensic testing of located phones.

“An extensive police search is ongoing for missing teenager, Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, who has not been seen or heard from since Sunday 30 April,” said Inspector Craig Fox.

“Yesterday, during an extensive search of the North Esk River in the area where Shyanne-Lee was last seen, police located a number of mobile phones. Forensic testing of the phones will be conducted to determine if any are linked to Shyanne-Lee.

“Today, police boats and divers will return to the North Esk River, to continue searching for any traces of Shyanne-Lee.

“Again, I reiterate, if Shyanne-Lee is out there, or if anyone knows where she is, please come forward and let us know. Shyanne-Lee is not in any trouble.”

Anyone with information that would assist police to locate Shyanne-Lee, or determine her movements, is urged to report to police on 131 444 or Crime Stoppers Tasmania – information can be provided anonymously.

Shyanne-Lee was last seen in the vicinity of Henry Street, Launceston, near the North Esk River, around 8:30pm on Sunday 30 April.

She is described as being approximately 160cm tall, slim build with blonde hair. At the time she was last seen, she was wearing a cream coloured hooded jumper with dark coloured writing on the chest and shoulder area. She was also wearing bike shorts.

 

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I hope this question doesn't seem ignorant, but are more rights/freedoms granted to minors in Australia than in the US? In the US, a homeless 14 year old would be returned to family or sent to social services (for better or worse, as you know our system is hopelessly underfunded and overburdened). A child could not live in a homeless shelter solo in the US. Am I misunderstanding the youth shelter or are 14 year olds allowed to make more decisions in Australia?
In Tasmania and some other states of Australia children are allowed to be on the streets once they turn 13, basically they can leave their home when ever they want for what ever reason and the police will only check in on them but not return them and if the parents try to get them home by force they will be charged with assault. It is extremely sad.
The youth accommodation is government funded housing for homeless youth we have a few different ones.
 

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Tasmania Police are continuing to search for a 14-year-old girl who went missing from Launceston more than two weeks ago.

Shyanne-Lee Tatnell was last seen along Henry Street, near the North Esk River, between 8pm and 9pm on Sunday April 30.

The young girl, who is described as being about 160 centimetres tall with blonde hair, wearing a cream coloured jumper and bike shorts, has not been seen or heard from since.

Police confirmed to SkyNews.com.au on Tuesday that Shyanne-Lee remains missing.



Tasmania Police say items located in the North Esk River last week were unrelated to the disappearance of 14-year-old Shyanne-Lee Tatnell.

 

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I hope this question doesn't seem ignorant, but are more rights/freedoms granted to minors in Australia than in the US? In the US, a homeless 14 year old would be returned to family or sent to social services (for better or worse, as you know our system is hopelessly underfunded and overburdened). A child could not live in a homeless shelter solo in the US. Am I misunderstanding the youth shelter or are 14 year olds allowed to make more decisions in Australia?
Hey there, we have youth refuges here in Australia and I live in nsw wales where we have a local youth refuge where kids 12-25 can stay in a group hostel style with staff and are required to attend school/other study or find work as part of staying. The ultimate goal is to either have the teenager back home safely with supports, access independent housing (good luck with our housing crisis) orremain in refuge until can find suitable accommodation.
Also they access a payment from government and have to pay to stay.
Our youth refuge is here is run by ngo called ypspace. If you google and add kempsey should find it as will give an idea of the youth services etc.
Hope helps and not just a waffle from me
 

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I hope this question doesn't seem ignorant, but are more rights/freedoms granted to minors in Australia than in the US? In the US, a homeless 14 year old would be returned to family or sent to social services (for better or worse, as you know our system is hopelessly underfunded and overburdened). A child could not live in a homeless shelter solo in the US. Am I misunderstanding the youth shelter or are 14 year olds allowed to make more decisions in Australia?
My two cents - many children/young people who are in youth homes are not able to live at home, and there is no current alternative (such as foster home). The homes are generally funded by government, run by community services organisations who work closely with the state child protection agency. The homes are staffed by youth workers so the children are not living solo - it is supported living. We still do have kids living on the streets for sure - there are not enough homes and some of them probably really don’t feel safe. Some are great.

Thoughts with Shyanne-Lee I really hope she is found safe.
 

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Police have paused the search for a missing 14-year-old Tasmanian girl who disappeared more than two weeks ago, but continue to investigate her disappearance.

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Tasmania Police announced on Thursday it would be pausing the North Esk River search effort.

“After extensive searching in the area over two-and-a-half weeks, there has unfortunately been no sign of Shyanne,” Inspector Craig Fox said.

Officers remain in close contact with Shyanne’s family, with Inspector Fox saying their thoughts remain with them at this difficult time.

“Yesterday we conducted another sweep of the North Esk River with the Westpac Rescue Helicopter, which unfortunately did not deliver any results,” he said.

“While the large-scale search of the area has been paused, the investigation remains active and inquiries are continuing.”

Inspector Fox said police were continuing to forensically test items of interest that have been found over the past two weeks.

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Shyanne-Lee Tatnell was last seen near the North Esk River in Launceston on April 30 and hasn't made contact with anyone since.
Police today asked for public help to identify three cars in the vicinity around 9pm.
They released CCTV images of a silver sedan, possibly a Holden Commodore, a van similar to a Honda Odyssey and another likely silver sedan.
"I urge the drivers of these vehicles to come forward, they may have a valuable piece of information that could assist us to locate Shyanne-Lee or track her movements," Inspector Craig Fox said.
 

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A vigil will be held this weekend in Launceston for missing teenager Shyanne-Lee Tatnell.

The 14-year-old was last seen in Launceston on the night of Sunday April 30, near the North Esk River.

Extensive searching, including the river itself, has failed to find anything substantive on what happened to the teen from Burnie.

The vigil will be held from 11 o'clock this Sunday morning in Launceston's City Park.

Shyanne-Lee's relatives have been invited to address the gathering.

 

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Poor mum, heart goes out to her. I was hoping that Shyanne had absconded from the home and was staying with friends but this is seeming less likely. Still a possibility though…Hope the police stay on it.
 

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A desperate mum says she is living "every parent's worst nightmare" after her daughter went missing a month ago.

Shyanne-Lee Tatnell, 14, has been missing since April 30 when she was last seen crossing a bridge in Launceston, Tasmania.

Mum-of-four Bobbi-Lee Ketchell, 34, says she has barely been able to sleep or eat and Shyanne-Lee hasn't used her bank card or social media accounts since her disappearance.

Mrs Ketchell, who also has three sons aged 16, 10 and 4, is clinging to the hope that her daughter is still alive but fears the worst.

Authorities say the teenager may have been taken against her will.

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The "funny, outgoing and compassionate" Shyanne-Lee was living at an at risk youth centre last and was last at home with her mum two months before she went missing.

Mrs Ketchell spoke to her daughter on the phone the night before she went missing and the pair had an argument about Shyanne-Lee, who has behavioural problems and suffers from depression, breaking rules to leave the centre.

She said: "The last thing I did was tell her I love her. She didn't say it back. It was the last time I heard her voice."

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