GUILTY Australia - Stephanie Scott, 26, Leeton, NSW, 5 April 2015 - #3

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  1. possumheart

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  2. PrimeSuspect

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    OMG! He was stalking someone else, a 12 yr old girl!!

    Poor Stephanie didn't have a chance, he'd rehearsed his attack on his target in his mind for a very long time, he was opportunistic and the target changed to Stephanie! He should NEVER be released!
     
  3. Trooper

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    I wondered who he had in mind when he was ordering all his equipment... Stephanie or someone else... . lots of planning and thought went into this murder and all it's peripheral actions, mainly, I think because it was Easter and Mum and Luke were going away without him. Where to, I don't know, or how. Or why, but he knew he had 4 days of an empty house and no questions to answer. And he must have had a running list of things to do, because I recall that his neighbors on the Monday, Easter Monday remarked on him hanging up line after line of laundry . They had been away that long weekend also, so Vincent had a lot of leeway, really.. no nosy neighbors, no nosy Mum, no nosy Luke. Just him. Free as a bird, coming and going as he pleased.

    Free to contact the black sheep brother, too.. no questions asked, no explanations demanded. Their quantity and timing of phone calls between each other will be of great significance in their sentencing, and since Marcus has been accepted in pleading guilty to accessory after the fact, I accept that , but I am convinced that those two brothers maintained a close relationship despite living a 1000 klms away from each other and that component of Marcus not being allowed home and that this murder was something they spoke about in the abstract quite often. The victim may have been obscure, but the act itself didn't appear to be unusual, to either Vincent or Marcus. ..

    Marcus was living with flatmates, and workmates at the vineyard NW of Adelaide and apparently didn't seem fazed, he continued working that weekend, the usual meals, and chat about the weather and work went on and yet.. and yet all this time, he knew that his twin brother was cleaning up after this horrendous murder, of a woman that a community was beginning to search for, the alarm had been raised, but Marcus quietly sits and waits for the parcel post from AU Post to arrive........
     
  4. Oz Jen

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    Not that it really matters any more, but I'm still wondering how Vincent managed to leave Stephanie's car in a remote paddock 8km from Leeton.

    I also find it hard to fathom how someone with such precise planning skills can overlook basic things like retaining damning photos on his phone.
    But then again, his twin brother didn't have the sense to get rid of the Jetstar boarding pass and business card from the second-hand jewellery store.
     
  5. Trooper

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    In the days to come, the twisted Stanford would return to the body several times...

    What a risktaker..... that's an hour's run , just over an hour, about 1 hour 20 mins .... an hour up and and an hour back, over Easter.... and some of those returnings to Stephanie's body must have been made in the dark, when oddly, a car is even more noticeable on those kind of back roads. ... He must have purchased fuel in Leeton. maybe Griffith, or even Yenda.. again, noticeable in the overall scheme of things..

    He must have needed something desperately to keep returning to Cocoparra park 'several times'... Not much choice of roads up there, there is one way, or another roundabout way... that's it. .. or was being instructed or ordered. 3 hour drive each time, fuel, not just the cost of it, but obtaining it without calling attention to himself, food, water, mechanical upkeep, tyres, ... even the weather would have to be factored in. Yet he never took a shovel, or a spade. He didnt shift the body from one place to another, either within the park or out of it.

    Elements of a highly organised killer and a totally disorganised killer. . .
     
  6. PrimeSuspect

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    I think you've captured the true face of a monster perfectly. It's eerily reminiscent of the behaviour of other psychopaths - Ivan Milat, Brett Cowan, Nathan Matthews......... they continue on living, laughing without missing a beat. When it's a shared crime, like couples or in this case, siblings, it's doubly troubling and shocking. We'd like to think they're one of a kind, so it's disturbing when it's revealed those perverted fantasies were openly expressed to another like minded monster and the plotting begins. :(
     
  7. Fuskier

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    IMO newspapers are possibly restricted in releasing investigative details as the matter is still before the Court. Sentencing hearing is yet to take place, then the perpetrator will be sentenced.:thinking:
     
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    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/school-cl...-teacher-stephanie-scott-20160719-gq9dvn.html

    Bill and Gail Scanlan lived next door to Stanford and said they had waved to Mr Stanford over the fence of their Maiden Avenue home on Easter Monday, the day after the murder.

    "We heard him come back on Monday, did all the washing, hung it all on the line, piles of it," Mrs Scanlan said.

    "He was a nice enough sort of bloke, clearly a loner, he kept to himself," Mr Scanlan said.


    Stanford's sentencing hearing is expected to take place at Griffith on October 11.
     
  9. sweetcaro

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    Horrible and horrific new details. My oldest daughter is 12, the thought of someone planning the acts that he did is just devastating. He better never be released.

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    It hasn't been publicised as to if and/or when this boarding pass was used for a flight by EasyJet.. There was a rumour, it even reached a newspaper that the flight the boarding pass was for was bound for Malaysia..... out of Australia, not an internal destination.......an escape plan, was how it was hinted at. ..
     
  12. Fuskier

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    FYI

    SUPPRESSION ORDER IN PLACE

    http://www.irrigator.com.au/story/4046664/emotion-on-high-as-killer-emerges/?cs=1524

    Re: Alleged inaccurate media reporting

    Griffith Police Commander has informed that the Supreme Court of Sydney has implemented a suppression order surrounding the case.
    “Media reports are factually incorrect and have caused significant upset and distress to a number of people, which is unfortunate," he said...

    Court details found 26-year-old Ms Scott went to the school on Easter Sunday to prepare a class for her English *students ... she was raped and murdered ...
    her burnt remains were discovered in a bush grave – arms still bound with handcuffs – after a week-long painstaking search...
    Stanford will be sentenced for Ms Scott’s murder in Griffith on October 11.
     
  13. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    The Viagra. The handcuffs. He had other equipment but these two stand out to me. Stephanie still was in handcuffs when her body was found. Her burnt body. He had ordered them some time before, so it's fair to say he expected some resistance , hence the need to restrain his victim, be she 12 or 25. He may have enjoyed the idea of handcuffs on her. But he also needed the handcuffs, and the consequent restraint provided by them for the time needed for the Viagra to work. According to the website it takes about an hour, sometimes 30 minutes.. It would be difficult to keep someone confined without the handcuffs for that amount of time, especially someone panicking and crazed with fear. So he obviously thought this thru well beforehand.

    How many 26 yr old physically healthy men men use Viagra, I don't know. It presupposes some sort of sexual handicap, a conviction held by Vincent that maybe he wouldn't be up to par on the Big Day and /or an experiment in perhaps extending the experience. I don't know what part Viagra plays in videogames or in the gamer section of the community. No idea. Or what part Viagra played in Marcus' life. Or even if he took some of it that day. I suspect he did , once he had Stephanie constrained. Or perhaps when he saw her car in the carpark. Who arrived at the school first that day will be all Vincent's story, it is vile how murderers get to own the last movements and speech of their victims.

    This murder of Stephanie in the tiny town of Leeton , where even the dogs move slowly, by a man who no body knew, it seems , has really been disturbing.. There is now quite a few villages and towns in NSW that I will never drive thru again, and Leeton is now one of them. It all began for me in Corowa, where I was visiting family friends who had finally taken the big step and moved into a farm they had bought just outside of Corowa.. That very weekend a young girl went missing and the case was as strange as any murder could possibly be.

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...83.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=ryan williams

    I haven't been back to Corowa, either.
     
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    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    "We heard him come back on Monday, did all the washing, hung it all on the line, piles of it," Mrs Scanlan neighbour said.

    Was there any reports that he took Stephanie's body back to his house?

    I remember a pic of police taking photos around the garage and back door area.

    I'm thinking he had this planned by having linen etc in his car for the cleanup & transportation. The police found Stephanie's blood in the back of his vehicle so I'm thinking he took the junk back home to wash it instead of burning & burying it along with Stephanie.

    I think he kept Stephanie's body in his house because he had two cars. He had to clean the staff room AND dump her car. THEN remove stephanie out of town. In that order?

    The 'piles' of washing could have been from his room & bedding where she was hidden while he hid her car.

    With nosey neighbours that would have been a problem and I wonder if the 'piles' of washing was wrapped around Stephanie's body from the vehicle before he hung it on the line.

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/school-cl...-teacher-stephanie-scott-20160719-gq9dvn.html
     
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    The allegation was made against News Limited in The Irrigator today.
    IMO several newspapers seem to have referenced The Daily Telegraph as their source. Where did Amy Dale, chief court reporter for The Daily Telegraph, source this information? She most likely would have attended court. She usually has her 'finger on the pulse' and is known to have a credible reputation IMO.

    The perpetrator has pleaded guilty.
    It was stated: “Media reports are factually incorrect and have caused significant upset and distress to a number of people, which is unfortunate," he said...
    If people are distressed upon realising that they were living with a 'monster' in their community, well they were! Just look what he has done to Stephanie. IMHO.
     
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    An escape plan for one or two twins?
     
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    bbm
    I've read Vincent visited SS' body several times at the Cocoparra National Park .....
     
  20. Fuskier

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    BBM Given the above information, it is possible that VS took Stephanie back to his house for sometime. As stated above, he would need time to clean the staff room, conceal her body, so he could dump her red mazda, dispose of her computer, then drive out to Cocoparra National Park.
     

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