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Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019

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  1. Rocket333

    Rocket333 Well-Known Member

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    He was seen on Shirley Street and possibly outside the Caltex. His cousin who saw the Aloha/Shirley Street cctv believed it was him and said he veered right towards Dryden Street. He would’ve done that walk a few times and wonder if he already knew it and wasn’t using google maps at all. He apparently lingered outside the Aloha apartments too. Doesn’t fit what’s been said about his character or movements that he’d go off course alone via a shortcut like through the back of Coles. I reckon this is down to someone known to him and they’ve left town either unaware or freaked out and bolted.
     
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    Perhaps there was trouble in Cheeky Monkey's? I wonder if anyone else was ejected at the same time as Theo.
    So Theo took the back way behind Cheeky Monkey's, to avoid the other person.

    Could be a hold-back item that the police are not saying.
     
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    The Cellar Byron Plaza on Jonson Street. About a 30 minute walk back to the hostel.
     
  4. Rocket333

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    Hence me pondering what he was kicked out for, as he wouldn’t have been the only one intoxicated in a bar probably full of young backpackers. He would’ve been doing something specific that got the attention of the bouncers I tend to think. It only matters if it’s connected to or causes a latter event.
     
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    You sure, looks kinda different to the released CCTV. And a 1 hour round trip to get drinks to go back to your hostel, before again going out?
     
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    What are we being privy to? What he looks like, what his phone looks like, searches of specific areas starting near his hostel and now focussed on the cape, a timeline.... What’s not being shown and what’s to be deducted?
     
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    I reacon that is the Million dollar question and something to do with who, and the Whats App for answers :(
     
  9. SouthAussie

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    I don't think there is a link to that particular CCTV.

    But there certainly is reference to it in at least several articles.

    I have noticed that the Caltex at Byron Bay is about 15 minutes walk from the hostel where Theo was staying. (Perhaps the Caltex CCTV recorded Theo.) For some reason, police are not releasing that video.


    Theo Hayez, 18, went missing on May 31 and was last seen on CCTV about 15 minutes' walk from his hostel in Byron Bay, a popular holiday destination in New South Wales.
    He was last heard from when he messaged a friend in Belgium just after midnight on Friday, May 31. He was last seen on CCTV about 15 minutes' walk from his Byron hostel, close to midnight.
    Young backpacker Theo Hayez missing in Australia and 'in grave danger'
     
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    You’re right, it’s the Great Northern bottle shop on Byron Street (behind the pub).
     

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    I think that the last CCTV of Theo is not being shown - where he is 15 minutes away from the hostel. Why is this video not being shown?

    Is it not relevant as we already have CCTV of Theo?

    Or is it like Jill Meagher's case, where they held back video of Jill being followed until right before Bayley's arrest?
     
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    Good man, nice find.
     
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    I wonder if the police dog was taken to the spots where he was shown in footage when walking home? Unfortunately due to the time lapsed since he was at that location the area he was in would now be contaminated due to foot traffic but still, surely they would have walked the dog from Cheeky Monkeys and along the confirmed area he was seen on CCTV? It is a long stretch even though likely be no trace of any scent due to the time lapsed and contamination of the scene but without naming another huge missing persons case in the North of NSW right now, sniffer dogs were brought in to the locations 4 years after the person went missing in an attempt to pick up a scent and any further evidence. I would think regardless they would have at least tried it once as an elimination even though time and odds against them.
     
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    Could the hostel manager or staff be involved? The delay in reporting his absence is significant. Could it be deliberate?
     
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    I would be surprised if they walked a 4km round trip to get some alcohol potentially not getting back to the hostel until 8pm only to then go back into town later - another 2.5kms to the pub. Unless they were using Uber’s / taxis which could be likely.

    Although ruled out, the footage at the bottle shop still makes me feel uncomfortable. Two mates wouldn’t be standing away from each other like that, it looked forced almost or as if the other male was following him. To me it’s also strange that same male is now having a go at the hostel for not raising the alarm earlier but wouldn’t you have checked in with your mate the next day if you’d been out together and he left early? I certainly would be.
     
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    As well as not leaving Cheeky Monkey's at the same time as Theo, when they went out together and had spent the evening together ........

    That pic doesn't sit well with me either. A very casual 'friendship', with Theo maybe doing all the buying?
    I wonder how much money Theo had left for the rest of his visit.
     
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    I would also love to know what the message said at 12.20am (I’m assuming this is the one sent back home, correct me if I’m wrong).

    He was spotted on CCTV 11.11pm near the Caltex, then again Aloha (unconfirmed but confirmed by family) 11.17pm which is 600m away. So going by his walking speed he in theory should have been back at the hostel 11mins later putting it around 11.30pm (media saying 15mins but I also would walk 1.1km in 11 mins, considering how cold it was i’m Sure he would have walked at speed to stay warm)

    So what was he doing in those 50mins? It would take 50mins to walk to the lighthouse but the direct route would be along Lawson street and he would appear on CCTV for sure. It’s a decent walk up that hill, even if intoxicated it’s not something you’d do lightly.

    I can’t see him having walked from cheeky monkeys - aloha - lighthouse at that time of night. He seems a switched on kid, it’s too far and from memory the road up isn’t well lit.

    My hinky metre is giving off Jill Meagher vibes, especially with this much police involvement.

    JMO
     
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    Hmmm, so we know he made it nearly or all the way back to Wake up but it doesn't appear he entered as his stuff was left untouched. He also left CMs on his own, without his 'friend' and police wont release dets of what went down inside CMs or why he was ejected. Why wouldn't he want to enter Wake Up or maybe delay entering, afraid of a confrontation with person or persons. Old Bay Jetty Park is literally across from Wake Up, you can practically see the beach, he would no doubt be familiar with it. Maybe he wanted some chill out time hence the delay before the last call at 12.20. After that, anyone's guess but his phone pinged way over back at the light house. So either he went there with person or persons (presumably not walking this time) or just his phone went. JMO
     
  19. Rocket333

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    Liked stalked by a random you mean?

    There’s a hostel van/bus ride available. Maybe they did the to-ing and fro-oing that way.

    The 12.20am message was a chat with a relative in Belgium with Theo talking about bands coming to Australia and that he’s lined up work when he gets home helping his Dad with a band or some music work. That’s been released.
     
  20. Via Marple

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    I am thinking while the locals are busy searching around the bush and the beach, perhaps the Sydney homicide detectives can follow up on every backpacker at Wake-up or nearby hostels, on that day, and may have checked out afterwards and left town.

    Looking for a phone, even though it's purple, is still a needle in a haystack job.

    Whereas Theo was there at Byron for only a day. How many mates would he have their phone numbers, and WhatsApp with in the middle of the night? Of course if the message recipient(s) was not local, there is nothing to worry about.
     
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