It's not just the height, it's the security and feeling in control. She asked him if he wanted to climb the tree and he said no. So she put him in the tree! I'm not saying it was evil but it's insensitive child management. He might have been quite willing to try the tree under other circumstances.
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He's a really good eater ... he's probably only about sixteen or seventeen kilos.
Inside house where William Tyrrell spent his final hours
Never before seen images of the inside of the house house where William Tyrrell spent his last hours and and the bedroom he slept in before vanishing without a trace have emerged.
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Hypothetical only:
Was the tree story “invented“ to cover the hand injury???
Isn‘t it a major red flag when the one of last persons to see a victim has an injury???
Rowley made Nocturnal Man remove his shirt and show him his hands looking for “scratches” or “other strange marks”.
I wonder if Police photographed the injury to FM’s hand??
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Missing William Tyrrell, Caroline Overington, Chapter 2, Page 29.
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Excellent thought re a possible accident theory…. Did William choke on a die?? He may easily had one or two in mouth while running…. Just being mischievous …
I do acknowledge that this doesnt fit with “Last Roar” as you need a patent airway to “roar” …
Were both dice accounted for, from that morning???
Again just HYPOTHETICAL
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The hand injury is REDFLAG #1 for me.
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I think I can recall in previous posts William would bite her?
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How many REDFLAGS are there in this case so far?
I am meaning “Police Type Red Flags”…. Things known to be associated with a Bad Outcome for a Victim…. Like for example, the hand injury….
A lot of you guys on the thread here, have followed many more cases than I have, so I’m interested in your thoughts on this, and wondering if we should make a list of them?? Thoughts???
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There was something odd about falling up the hill too. Was he running away up the hill, did she reach out? Fall on him? Something about the way it was phrased was odd.
The tree thing sounds like she may have been pushing him to 'try' even though he was clearly uncomfortable. It all smacks of inexperience with little kids. Encouraging someone if different from throwing them in the deep end, scaring them and potentially putting them in a dangerous position. It also indicates a level of disappointment I reckon. It wasn't all rosebuds and honeydew. Not that I'm suggesting SD left him up a tree. I don't know what happened and am only speculating of course.
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The tree thing sounds like she may have been pushing him to 'try' even though he was clearly uncomfortable. It all smacks of inexperience with little kids. Encouraging someone if different from throwing them in the deep end, scaring them and potentially putting them in a dangerous position. It also indicates a level of disappointment I reckon. It wasn't all rosebuds and honeydew. Not that I'm suggesting SD left him up a tree. I don't know what happened and am only speculating of course.
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Note: JMO = Only 15 seconds between 1nd last photo and the last photo of William roaring! Being picky, but the length of his trouser leg on the right has changed significantly.
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The only thing that I recall about uphill or downhill is ..... "Three-year-old boys don't tend to walk up steep hills. They run down them."
Unless there is something else that says what your post states?
Missing William Tyrell casts dark shadow over town
Three-year-old boys don't tend to walk up steep hills. They run down them.
There are many ways in which William may have passed. Falling up the hill has never been quoted or stated in MSM ... AFAIK.
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Some interesting speculation over the last 10 pages or so of this thread.
A few things come to my mind (apologies for not being able to find the exact references atm):
The fosters had reported difficulties with the kids' behaviour in discussions with either FACS or the Salvos.
Both kids were put into pull-ups on the trip from Maccas to Kendall.
IIRC, William was made to wash his nightwear? I think it was said that he was in the habit of wetting the bed?
A few things come to my mind (apologies for not being able to find the exact references atm):
The fosters had reported difficulties with the kids' behaviour in discussions with either FACS or the Salvos.
Both kids were put into pull-ups on the trip from Maccas to Kendall.
IIRC, William was made to wash his nightwear? I think it was said that he was in the habit of wetting the bed?
MFC told William he needed to get up and get changed "and then we know and we can have a cuddle". So it's unclear, but there's nothing about telling him to wash his nightwear. It might have been, MFC was sending William in to FFC to ask her to change him. Shortly afterwards, William's sister joined them saying FFC wanted to sleep a bit longer. FFC must have been awake to say so.
Bombshell documents lift lid on William Tyrrell mystery
Explosive new documents from the William Tyrrell case reveal details about the toddler's life with his foster family, his violent behaviour and an accident days before he vanished.
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Wasn't there a buckled foot (FFC) also or do I remember wrong?
I think I remember too that FFC grazed her hand on the way back to the house after the tree episode, walking up hill. I do find that plausible. What I find odd is that she went and showed it to her mother. Convenient that all this is said to have happened before the last photograph when William was plainly still alive.The only thing that I recall about uphill or downhill is ..... "Three-year-old boys don't tend to walk up steep hills. They run down them."
Unless there is something else that says what your post states?
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Three-year-old boys don't tend to walk up steep hills. They run down them.www.smh.com.au
There are many ways in which William may have passed. Falling up the hill has never been quoted or stated in MSM ... AFAIK.
Not that I remember.
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Oh well, at least while looking around I found a much better copy of that photo on my travels to Channel 9. The one above is horribly degraded.
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In that link, the mention of 'singlet' is to the effect that William wasn't wearing one.
I remember the discussion with William about putting on his Spiderman clothes because I wanted him to wear a singlet, he didn’t want to wear a singlet, so the compromise was he’d wear a Spiderman t-shirt underneath his Spiderman clothes, so he was Spidermanned out, completely.
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Nothing about William (or her) falling up hill though, right? As was stated in the original post. "There was something odd about falling up the hill too. Was he running away up the hill, did she reach out? Fall on him? Something about the way it was phrased was odd." Which is why I asked for a link.
(Just trying to keep things as factual as we can, is all.)
"In two statements made to police after William’s disappearance, the foster mother said on the morning in question she slipped and grazed her right hand while playing with William outside the Benaroon Drive house."
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What is off limits about the singlet is the whole discussion where some members think he wearing one in the image and other members who don't think he is.
What is in MSM or transcripts about the singlet is still open for discussion .. it's just the never-ending, back and forth discussion of who sees what and who doesn't see what.
Bickering over it and endless discussion about it is just beating a dead horse and becomes very disinteresting for other members and guests to read the back and forth when there is no MSM or info from LE to support or refute.
What is off limits about the singlet is the whole discussion where some members think he wearing one in the image and other members who don't think he is.
What is in MSM or transcripts about the singlet is still open for discussion .. it's just the never-ending, back and forth discussion of who sees what and who doesn't see what.
Bickering over it and endless discussion about it is just beating a dead horse and becomes very disinteresting for other members and guests to read the back and forth when there is no MSM or info from LE to support or refute.
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