Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #38

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  1. Warshawski

    Warshawski Well-Known Member

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    I'm still pondering on this fact SA. ( sorry, not pondering the part about the pertrator's / S' wishes, for sure that was uppermost in that regard !)

    I'm still wanting more information in so many far reaching areas, in order to form my opinion as to 'premeditated' or 'on a whim'.

    What confuses me is the fact that there seems to be so many common 'denominators' when you map it all out. ..hence my endorsement of the inquest.
     
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  2. frogwell

    frogwell Well-Known Member

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    Interesting idea, however, I imagine the police would have been called straight away instead of a search. IMO
     
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    According to his FM he was too fearful for such an experiment, IMO, and we have to believe.
     
  4. FromGermany

    FromGermany Well-Known Member

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    I want to see/hear his lawn mower son.
     
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    FromGermany Well-Known Member

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    I would accept, if there would be another person as a suspect, who did it probably or participated (evidence).
    I wouldn't accept, if there would be anyone other. Then I would think, he got away with that as he possibly got away with other crimes.
     
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    Being hit by a car and removed from the scene qualifies as human intervention I'd have thought.
     
  7. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    Does Mr Savage have a lawnmowing son? I know he has a son, as the son commented to the media, but I am not sure where the lawn mowing comes into it.
    Unless you mean the neighbour who lived further down the street who was mowing his lawn around the time William went missing.


    Down the street, a man on a ride-on mower cut his lawn.
    What happened on the day William Tyrrell vanished?

    'When I heard I was on my ride on mower and saw a police car. Someone came running down the street. They said someone had just lost a kid. I took my dog for a walk and had a look for him. I wish he was found on the first day.'
    Missing William Tyrell, 3, 'picked up by a car' police now believe | Daily Mail Online
     
  8. SouthAussie

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    I guess it depends when the young child was interviewed by specialist interviewers. With all the commotion and upset that was going on, it may have taken a little while for a specialist to coax anything useful out of her .. if she actually had seen anything at all, of course.

    Then the sex crimes squad was called in within the first 10 days. I wonder why that happened so quickly? Spedding? Or other info?
     
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  9. frogwell

    frogwell Well-Known Member

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    I went to Kendall on my way home from holidays. My visit was brief due to circumstances. I went to the cemetery. I saw the pathway and walked along it a little way but returned to my car. There was no one around. I noticed the topes of the houses that can be seen right at the edge of the cemetery from Ellendale, but the houses at the end of Benaroon were much further away. They were not visible. I went to Benaroon which was strange after seeing it so many times in the media and looking at satellite pictures, it was at once the same but different. Benaroon is not nearly as long as I imagined, the vacant block across from the FGM's former home now has a new home on it. No cars on the street, no one visible, the houses are set back but not that far, anyone could be observing you. Although a lot of people live around the area, it is really a sleepy little town as far as towns go down the East Coast of NSW. Benaroon Drive is not far from the rest of the town either. I drove down Batar Creek road and onto Stoney Creek Road through Middle Brother national Park. I only passed one other vehichle and I was in there for about 1/2 an hour driving. If he was in there he could be anywhere, it is massive and roads leading off to all sorts of places, but vehichles would be noticed by others as they are infrequent. The road is very stoney and shakey so I can see how there may have been a chance that something was dislodged from a vehichle. I followed that path and came out on the Pacific Highway at John's River. There had been a missing 2 year old boy the year before at a property in that location and he was found on the same property after 11 hours. That case came back to me again as I left Middle Brother. The main feeling I got from driving around was that if it was opportunistic, the person would have had overpowering feelings to do something like this, it is so brazen, so high risk of being seen, and it makes me think they couldn't help but repeat this behaviour again. I find it very difficult to believe this was an opportunistic abduction unless there had been other abduction attempts in the area. IMO
     
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  10. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that must have been a pretty sad trip through Middle Brother forest. Lots of nostalgia for a sweet little boy, who none of us know but who has won our hearts anyway.
     
  11. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Yes, young and overwhelmed by what’s happened but imagine when that child is older and sees a type of car, a sound or smell and something jolts a memory that might have been suppressed, recognises it and says that’s what I saw that day. I wonder if there’s a precedence for that scenario.
    Now that would be a good day.
     
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    Hopefully, by that time, that child or adult can be content that whoever did this is locked away for a long time.
     
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    I read it in the last news articles, when S senior also was mentioned. When I searched for the link, I couldn't find it.
     
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    bbm red and black
    Several names with something like "water" and "stone". I'm noticing.
    bbm green
    What is that with the missing boy? An abduction with "back delivery"? Maybe the first try by the perp of 2014?

     
  15. SouthAussie

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    We had a lot of debate about this back in the threads. Makara had thought the lawnmower man lived across the road, but through more investigation it was discovered that the lawnmowing that morning was done at #11 ... further down the road.

    I have searched back through the threads, and cannot find anything at all (links or specific info) about Mr Savage's son doing any lawnmowing - other than the discussion about it, following Makara's thought.

    Has anyone else got a link for this?
     
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  16. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    Nothing specific on exact location.
    Sometime before 10.30am, William’s foster mother retreated from the outdoors inside to make a cup of tea for her and her mother.

    Down the street, a man on a ride-on mower cut his lawn.

    Again, William disappeared down the side of his grandmother’s house towards the backyard.

    Only on this occasion, the boy did not reappear.
    What happened on the day William Tyrrell vanished?
     
  17. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    A neighbour on the street told Daily Mail Australia he met William's father who was 'searching through the backyards heartbroken and frantic'.

    The neighbour said that while he has lived on the street for seven years he did not know William or the boy's parents. He had however met the woman who lived in the house where William disappeared from.

    'The boy came up from Sydney to visit a lady in the house,' he explained.
    'It's been pretty full on. I've been here the whole time, people have been pouring through our back yards. I really hope he's found soon.

    'Everyone in the street has been interviewed. It's really horrible,' he added.

    The man said there hasn't been 'one burglary or incident' on the street the whole time he has lived there.

    'It is a quiet peaceful area and it has been turned upside down.'

    'When I heard I was on my ride on mower and saw a police car. Someone came running down the street. They said someone had just lost a kid. I took my dog for a walk and had a look for him. I wish he was found on the first day.'

    Police told Daily Mail Australia the boy was 'living or staying' at the house at the time of his disappearance.
    Missing William Tyrell, 3, 'picked up by a car' police now believe | Daily Mail Online
     
  18. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    Yes ... it was an unnamed neighbour who stated that. Mr Savage has never requested that his name not be used (I don't think), judging by all the comments that I have seen in MSM made by him.

    After much discussion, the consensus that was reached much earlier in the threads was that this neighbour lived down the street ... and Bo had identified it as #11.
     
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    i remember the missing two year old at johns road, the person who found him was unknown, the whole incident seemed very strange......
    Missing 15 hours: Who found Tyler, asks his mum
    Ms Kennedy said the identity of Tyler’s rescuer still remains unknown
    Missing 15 hours: Who found Tyler, asks his mum
     
  20. SouthAussie

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    Yes, it did seem strange. I was always a little afraid that something had been inflicted upon that small boy while he was missing. It is not something one would read about, as we tend to keep info like that private. But when the boy's mum said he was having trouble sleeping now .....
     
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