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Australia Australia - William Tyrrell Disappeared While Playing in Yard - Kendall (NSW) #79
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In a recorded phone call with a friend on October 15, 2021, the foster mother said if she had disposed of William's body that she would not have covered it up.
"I would have owned up to it," she said.
She questioned when she would have had time to dispose of the body and criticised police for wasting millions of dollars and coming up with "absolutely zero" in their search.
www.northweststar.com.au
"I would have owned up to it," she said.
She questioned when she would have had time to dispose of the body and criticised police for wasting millions of dollars and coming up with "absolutely zero" in their search.
Foster mum would have 'owned up' to dumping 3yo's body
William Tyrrell's foster mum told a friend that if she disposed of the three-year-old's body, she would have...
JMO -
FM covers herself in the Article below:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/07/william-tyrrell-inquest-updates-foster-mother-video-interview-questioned-ntwnfb\
"She could not with certainty say if she took that drive before or after calling triple-zero, but said it was unlikely she would call emergency services and then take a drive."
...... This quote is also from that Article:
"She was also grilled about a phone call with a friend that police had taped, in which she says she doesn’t “believe” she could have dumped the body. She also says she believes he won’t be found for “30, to 40, maybe 50 to 60, even 200 years without clearing [the surrounding forrest]”.
The property at Kendall is surrounded by thick vegetation that is difficult to traverse.
Asked how she knew police would need to clear the vegetation to potentially find William’s body, the foster mother broke down again.
“I said clearing as in he could be anywhere. All of Kendall is surrounded by state forest. What I was saying was that the bush around there is unbelievably thick.”
Early in the interview, she said she believed William was “taken” by someone.
Asked if it had been minutes between when she had last heard him and when she had formed the view he had been “taken”, she said she wasn’t sure.
“I wouldn’t say it was minutes,” she said. “When I stood up, and went around the corner, I just looked and I couldn’t see him.
“All I could think was that someone had taken him.”
Asked if the view that William had been taken altered the way she immediately searched for him, she said no: “I just needed to find him.”
Asked then if she could exclude the possibility he had walked off, she said she wasn’t sure in the moment: “All I could think was I can’t see him. I can’t see where he is.”
On the day he disappeared, she said William had been playing games in the morning after breakfast.
She then said she had made a cup of tea and sat down, before thinking she could not hear him any more.
“He was running in front of us, he was roaring. I was talking with Mum, he goes towards the patio, and I can hear him roaring, and I am still talking to Mum. And then I don’t hear a sound, and I tell Mum, ‘That’s too quiet.’
“That’s when I get up and walk around the corner, and couldn’t see him.”
The foster mother has always denied having anything to do with William’s disappearance."
FM covers herself in the Article below:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/07/william-tyrrell-inquest-updates-foster-mother-video-interview-questioned-ntwnfb\
"She could not with certainty say if she took that drive before or after calling triple-zero, but said it was unlikely she would call emergency services and then take a drive."
...... This quote is also from that Article:
"She was also grilled about a phone call with a friend that police had taped, in which she says she doesn’t “believe” she could have dumped the body. She also says she believes he won’t be found for “30, to 40, maybe 50 to 60, even 200 years without clearing [the surrounding forrest]”.
The property at Kendall is surrounded by thick vegetation that is difficult to traverse.
Asked how she knew police would need to clear the vegetation to potentially find William’s body, the foster mother broke down again.
“I said clearing as in he could be anywhere. All of Kendall is surrounded by state forest. What I was saying was that the bush around there is unbelievably thick.”
Early in the interview, she said she believed William was “taken” by someone.
Asked if it had been minutes between when she had last heard him and when she had formed the view he had been “taken”, she said she wasn’t sure.
“I wouldn’t say it was minutes,” she said. “When I stood up, and went around the corner, I just looked and I couldn’t see him.
“All I could think was that someone had taken him.”
Asked if the view that William had been taken altered the way she immediately searched for him, she said no: “I just needed to find him.”
Asked then if she could exclude the possibility he had walked off, she said she wasn’t sure in the moment: “All I could think was I can’t see him. I can’t see where he is.”
On the day he disappeared, she said William had been playing games in the morning after breakfast.
She then said she had made a cup of tea and sat down, before thinking she could not hear him any more.
“He was running in front of us, he was roaring. I was talking with Mum, he goes towards the patio, and I can hear him roaring, and I am still talking to Mum. And then I don’t hear a sound, and I tell Mum, ‘That’s too quiet.’
“That’s when I get up and walk around the corner, and couldn’t see him.”
The foster mother has always denied having anything to do with William’s disappearance."
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I was there too.
I asked at the registry about the NPO's etc ( as I was just as confused as you ) & basically what was heard could be reported, just not names ( FFC etc )
I was really surprised after the dressing down the media got this morning that they printed articles. So had to check it out myself as I thought that they couldn't be so stupid
At least the photo questions were cleared up, they are correct.
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I was there too.
I asked at the registry about the NPO's etc ( as I was just as confused as you ) & basically what was heard could be reported, just not names ( FFC etc )
I was really surprised after the dressing down the media got this morning that they printed articles. So had to check it out myself as I thought that they couldn't be so stupid
At least the photo questions were cleared up, they are correct.
So the photo times are correct. I am so glad that was officially confirmed. Even though journos like CO had mentioned that some years ago.
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It would be really nice if MSM could report that fact.
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Being News Corp, naturally this article contains the mandatory claim of a bombshell:
www.dailymail.co.uk
William Tyrrell's foster mother breaks down in court after hearing bombshell secret phone call about a 'skeleton' - as she's grilled over alleged cover-up
William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call
The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'
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Being News Corp, naturally this article contains the mandatory claim of a bombshell:
William Tyrrell's foster mother breaks down in court after hearing bombshell secret phone call about a 'skeleton' - as she's grilled over alleged cover-up
William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call
The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'
"NSW Police asked for the foster mother to be recalled for questioning before the inquest for the first time since she testified in 2019."
Because hearing 4 hours of interrogation at the NSWCC wasn't enough.
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Yep, I had to read that twice myself, to make sure I wasn't confusing the events.
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Not sure about the timing of events, but my guess is that piece of the conversation is what got the police determined to start a dig.
The current cops are 100% convinced it’s her. However, it would appear there is no forensic evidence to support this.
There are some things which seem very perculiar about her version of events.
IMO it is possible she is somehow involved along the lines of the police theory. It’s also possible he was abducted or experienced misadventure after wondering off.
I feel the latter two are becoming less and less likely as time rolls on.
If it was her, it’s almost unbelievable she has managed to keep the facade up for so long.
Truly hope everyone gets resolution.
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Plus about 3-4 other things before and afterwards but they can’t pin her IMO because the Police investigation was so bad in the first 48 hours.
When she gets cornered in 1-2 interviews about the timeline she proceeds to go into fairytales about a special time her and William were having together but she can’t share it.
IMO she is very special - very intelligent and has a lot going in between the ears IMO (maybe too much)
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/concur.
Ultimately, it could apply to any scenario of his disappearance. But if I was on the strike force, would definitely use it as justification to kick off a dig.
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"I don’t believe that if I had done anything to William that I would have tried to cover it up, I would own up to it. I just can’t see it in me....
...I mean how much time did I have, It’s just impossible, no evidence."
Here's what gets me.
She engages in speculation/circumspection with herself that she doesn't think she'd cover it up if it was accidental.
What?
She IS herself.
IMO it's very third persony, distancy, pointlessly nebulous ... and "I... don't believe... I would have..."
What is she comparing to? Amnesia?. H
I might never be (think of myself) as the sort to... doesn't preclude me from doing something in a particular instance that might be totally out of character (how I see myself or how others see me or how I want others to see me) when confronted with a situation I caused, directly or indirectly, and I only have one moment to decide, not what I would do, but what I'm going to do.
"I just can't see it in me." <----- these may be the truest words she's ever spoken. And IMO an embedded confession. I don't see myself that way. I don't see myself doing that.
Why would someone who didn't cover up the death of a child, wonder if she's the kind of person who would do that? When she either did or didn't!!!!
1. It's deflectionary. It takes the conversation off facts and recall into the realm of theory. Safer that way. No longer talking about fud she or didn't but would she or worldly she. 99.999% she (thinks she) would never do such a thing. IN THEORY.
2. And she follows it to by asking herself a rhetorical question. That's bizarre. Like she can't skip the question and just answer it. "I mean, how much time did i have?" Pretty self-serving too, when she manipulated time. There's a missing half hour between last seeing Wm and the few minutes she told dispatch he's been missing. So, sure -- there's no time for a drive if she made that call five minutes after he disappeared.
To me, that she's engaged in would haves tells me she's keeping the narrative in the realm of speculation where she has more control of it.
Did you cover up Wm's death?
I don't believe I would have.
(And there's no evidence. But if there was evidence? Which there is. Evidence she lied about the elapsed time, omitted the car ride... but she's doubling down? I don't believe I would have AND there's no evidence. That's her defense.)
If she wouldn't have done it AND she in fact didn't do it, why engage in speculation about whether she would have? It is a word salad loop. A purposeful word salad loop.
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www.dailymail.co.uk
...I mean how much time did I have, It’s just impossible, no evidence."
Here's what gets me.
She engages in speculation/circumspection with herself that she doesn't think she'd cover it up if it was accidental.
What?
She IS herself.
IMO it's very third persony, distancy, pointlessly nebulous ... and "I... don't believe... I would have..."
What is she comparing to? Amnesia?. H
I might never be (think of myself) as the sort to... doesn't preclude me from doing something in a particular instance that might be totally out of character (how I see myself or how others see me or how I want others to see me) when confronted with a situation I caused, directly or indirectly, and I only have one moment to decide, not what I would do, but what I'm going to do.
"I just can't see it in me." <----- these may be the truest words she's ever spoken. And IMO an embedded confession. I don't see myself that way. I don't see myself doing that.
Why would someone who didn't cover up the death of a child, wonder if she's the kind of person who would do that? When she either did or didn't!!!!
1. It's deflectionary. It takes the conversation off facts and recall into the realm of theory. Safer that way. No longer talking about fud she or didn't but would she or worldly she. 99.999% she (thinks she) would never do such a thing. IN THEORY.
2. And she follows it to by asking herself a rhetorical question. That's bizarre. Like she can't skip the question and just answer it. "I mean, how much time did i have?" Pretty self-serving too, when she manipulated time. There's a missing half hour between last seeing Wm and the few minutes she told dispatch he's been missing. So, sure -- there's no time for a drive if she made that call five minutes after he disappeared.
To me, that she's engaged in would haves tells me she's keeping the narrative in the realm of speculation where she has more control of it.
Did you cover up Wm's death?
I don't believe I would have.
(And there's no evidence. But if there was evidence? Which there is. Evidence she lied about the elapsed time, omitted the car ride... but she's doubling down? I don't believe I would have AND there's no evidence. That's her defense.)
If she wouldn't have done it AND she in fact didn't do it, why engage in speculation about whether she would have? It is a word salad loop. A purposeful word salad loop.
JMO
William Tyrrell's foster mum sobs after hearing secret phone call
The inquest into William Tyrrell's 2014 disappearance heard a secretly recorded phone call in which it was claimed his foster mum talked to a friend about 'a skeleton' in a clearing'
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I've stated here a number of times that I hold both the foster parents in very low regard, particularly in relation their treatment of children supposedly in their care as revealed in the police recordings used in the assault cases.
And from the get-go, I have had a lot of trouble with the FM's versions of events on the day that William disappeared. Listening to her various statements, she has always struck me as a controlling person who is determined to own the narrative, regardless of how ludicrous it becomes.
All that said, unless police can come up with hard evidence that she knows what happened to William, and was complicit after the fact, then they have no case whatsoever and their pretending that they have makes them ludicrous, too, IMO.