Identified! AZ - Coconino Co, 'Valentine Sally' WhtFem 585UFAZ, 14-19, along I-40, Feb'82 -Carolyn Celeste Eaton

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  1. Awsi Dooger

    Awsi Dooger Well-Known Member

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    Those monksprung posts carried such weight with me I linked them in a Valentine Sally thread on Reddit last week. Once in a while something comparatively jumps off the page as the elusive answer. I can think of three recent examples -- the Zodiac cipher solve before confirmation, the photos discovered of Pamela Mae Buckley a couple of days before the Sumter County Doe identities were revealed, and those monksprung details about a friend's sister who ran away at Christmas time 1981. The tipping point detail was detectives flying to visit the family not long after DNA submission to the public database.
     


  2. Dee Deforest

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    I just read she was identified.. Rest in Peace Carolyn, you deserved so much better.
     
  3. Awsi Dooger

    Awsi Dooger Well-Known Member

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    Somebody on Reddit made the case that her murderer could have been Royal Russell Long, a trucker who was active at the time and known to pick up young girls. The photos of Long seem to match the description provided by the waitress Patty Wilkins. She should be shown the photos and videos like this. Not a pleasant twist but I'd say it is very possible if not likely. Long pled guilty to kidnapping in a 1985 New Mexico case and died of a heart attack in prison

     
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    I think I missed something... what did he ask about her tooth?
     
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    I'm happy that Carolyn's family got her child's name back and that LE is satisfied by identifying our formerly known UID.

    I'm also happy for Patty Wilkins, who cared for Carolyn and her wellbeing in the few time she spent at her truck stop, it was such a kind gesture the fact that Patty paid for a tombstone for her.
     
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    I agree, RRL bears a resemblance to the main suspect, he travelled through I-40 and i think that was the same highway he travelled when he abducted Cinda and Charlotte back in September of 1981.

    I wonder if Patty has seen the photos of him, though i think that she would have seen him in the 1985 court hearings.
     
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    I wonder if CCPD is going to do a livestream with Carolyn's information.
     
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    I hope so. Maybe the Facebook reveal is a sign that there could be a press conference up ahead?
     
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    I left a comment on their post, asking if there is a livestream of the press conference, if they eventually do it.
     
  11. MadMcGoo

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    What an unexpected surprise! Rest peacefully now Carolyn.
     
  12. Feme98

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    I wonder if Carolyn just wanted to get away, maybe she ran away to her friends and worked odd jobs in those 2 months.

    It's kinda bittersweet whenever any of these UID get their names back.
     
  13. FireOwl9

    FireOwl9 Someday everything will make perfect sense...

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    I remember reading that Carolyn had a toothache, and that the man was concerned about her pain.

    According to Patty, Carolyn was 'very comfortable' being with the man, as if the man was a relative of hers.
     
  14. Feme98

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    I think that he was Royal Russell Long, maybe he made Carolyn feel comfortable enough, perhaps he promised her to get her to New Jersey and some sort of dental attention for her tooth. JMO
     
  15. Ajaygee11

    Ajaygee11 Semi Retired / Rally Driver / Very Amateur Slueth

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    Yes, the first thing I thought when reading that is how is far Walker County Jane Doe really from home.
     
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    Glad she has her name back. So sad though, especially for Patricia Wilkins.

    I do not find it unusual that a 17 year-old made her way from Missouri to Arizona. #1, the distance is not that great. #2, by 17, especially going back to the early 80s, most girls were pretty mature and savvy. I had friends who graduated early, moved out and had apartments at 17. I traveled alone and with friends at the same age. I had a car and a job.

    There is mention of a college student giving her a ride shortly before she was seen with the older man in the truck stop. She might have made her initial way West with college students going back after Christmas break. I remember seeing "rideshares wanted" all the time when I was younger.

    Maybe now that she has her name back, someone will come forward and remember giving her a ride or knows something helpful.
     
  18. Awsi Dooger

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    Here is a related video from a St. Louis newscast. It shows Carolyn's neighborhood in the St. Louis area, plus some comments from a former neighbor who remembers when Carolyn went missing. Apparently a runaway report was filed. But from the sounds of things it never turned into a missing persons report. Also another sad twist. The son of the current owner of Carolyn's old home was murdered in 2013. When the mother found about this solve it gave her hope toward her son's case being solved:

    Arizona's 'Valentine Sally' identified as St. Louis County woman
     
  19. Feme98

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    I wonder if LE dismissed as a runaway.
     
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    Thanks for the link!
    It's great to see Patty happy that she learned that Carolyn was ID!
     

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