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Found Deceased AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 *Arrest* #26

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  1. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    watcher9 Well-Known Member

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    I just checked the link and it still works for me. After the Damion name was mentioned as an alias in the above post, I did a search on that name and the Florida link popped up. Here is a screen shot of it.

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  3. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Looks like him! Glad I caught that aka in his court pages.
     
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  4. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    That dismissal was expected -- it was the deal he made to lead authorities to Isa's body in the desert. This jerk was more concerned about his theft charge than MURDER! He didn't think LE had sufficient evidence to charge him.
     
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    MummyRatcliffe Well-Known Member

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    Hi Ocean,

    BBM as I completely agree with these words and when I first joined and commented on this thread I was still suspicious of SC and convinced it would come out that he played some part in this. I would just like to take the opportunity to apologise to you as we got into a little debate about this and you were absolutely right and I was completely wrong, cruel and too quick to jump to my own conclusions based on my own feelings towards SC. You, and this case taught me a valuable lesson that intuition/gut feelings should not be taken as gospel and any parents, without concrete evidence, should be given the benefit of the doubt until we know more. You’re a wise lady (I’m sorry I’m assuming lady!)
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Any one have any luck in finding him in Pima County. Coming up with just the burglary charge which was dismissed...

    TIA! :)
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    For Fraud, Burglary & theft of ppty from last hearing on 6/14. Missed a couple of hearings....
    Case# S-0700-CR-005669

    8/23/2019 Evidentiary Hearing D 2

    8/16/2019 Evidentiary Hearing D 2

    6/26/2019 Motion D 2

    6/25/2019 MFR - Motion For Reconsideration D 2

    6/20/2019 029 - ME: Status Conference D 3

    6/14/2019 Status Conference D 2

    link: Public Access Case Lookup


    I have a case # of 2018-3978-001 for the murder case, but can't seem to find anything on it.

    Anyone else want to try Pima County? TIA if you find something for me! :)
     
  8. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Sorry @Niner --

    I found 18 records 1972-86 for entire AZ state counties.

    I'm thinking this case is not here because it involves juvenile??

    Have to think about this one....o_O
     
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    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Hmm... couldn't locate this case in Pima Superior Court either 2018-3978-001??
     
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    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Christopher Clements challenges indictment in Isabel Celis and Maribel Gonzales case

    April 4, 2019

    TUCSON – The man accused of kidnapping and murdering Isabel Celis and Maribel Gonzales is challenging his indictment in court.

    A grand jury indicted Christopher Clements on 21 charges last October. In a grand jury proceeding, prosecutors present the case. The defendant does not have an attorney present to contradict prosecutors.

    Clements’ attorneys filed a motion to redetermine the most serious charges, including kidnapping and murdering the girls. They wrote, “the state withheld evidence favorable to the defense including exculpatory evidence. The State also misrepresented important evidence that unfairly prejudiced the defense.”

    A detective told grand jurors that drops of the girl’s blood were found in her bedroom. Clements attorneys argue that suggested a forced abduction, but nobody told the grand jurors that Celis’ parents said the blood may have been from a bloody nose.

    Clements’ attorneys repeatedly suggested a Celis family member was responsible for the girl’s disappearance. Police reports indicate a family member failed a polygraph test. That family member was communicating with somebody who was under investigation for drug and weapon trafficking, according to court documents. bbm

    Clements’s attorneys also argued the grand jury should have been told that it would have been extremely difficult or impossible to abduct the girl from her bedroom window. They argued at least one of the family dogs would have been barking, and one of the dogs was so defensive it bit an officer during the investigation.

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    Other documents also showed how seriously detectives were looking at the Celis family. Their vehicles had GPS tracking devices. Detectives monitored phone calls. For many months, police did not believe a stranger abducted the girl. bbm

    ETA: Wow -- had not seen these allegations against Isa's family before.
     
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    April 17, 2019

    Isabel vanished from her parents’ east-side home overnight April 20, 2012. The Tucson Police Department announced the arrest of Christopher Clements in her kidnapping and murder, as well as the kidnapping and murder and Maribel Gonzalez, in September 2018.

    Hundreds of pages of documents were released Wednesday, April 17 by the Pima County Attorney’s Office. The documents outline interviews, lie detector tests and evidence collected following the six-year-old’s disappearance.

    As Clements sits behind bars, the documents also shed light into how close detectives were to the accused killer in the hours and days that followed the disappearance of Isabel.

    In an interview with detectives hours after Isabel was reported missing on April 21, 2012, Rebecca Celis, Isabel’s mom, was asked about recent strangers and visitors to the family’s home.

    She told them “There was a guy who came over about three weeks ago, looking to buy that Acura. He’s come by a couple times.” Celis said she didn’t know his name.

    Police have previously said a man matching Clement's appearance went to look at the Celis' family's car, asking if it was for sale.

    Another document released showed a list of of registered sex offenders two detectives were asked to meet with and speak to about their whereabouts the night Isabel went missing. The list of sixteen men includes Clements. The detectives documented that they spoke with Clements on May -----, but we don’t know what came out of the officer’s conversation with him. bbm

    A 25-page report from one Tucson Police detective details his part in the investigation from when Isabel was reported missing until May 15, 2012. It states Rebecca and Sergio Celis, Isabel’s dad, went a police station on April 22, 2012 to speak with detectives.

    The officer wrote Sergio asked when it would be appropriate for “them to go back to their normal life” because their sons had baseball practice. It also stated that when Rebecca asked if they thought Isabel was alive, Sergio said “it has been over 24 hours and that isn’t good.”

    The document states the father failed a polygraph test that day and then another 18 days later.

    A discovery inside the six-year-old’s bedroom was also detailed in the report. Detectives found children’s hand printing on a wall and inside a closet. It said things like “Nothing,” “Bad day," "Dad Didn’t, “I don’t like Dad,” and “Bad Dad.”

    Throughout the detective’s full report, Sergio continued to deny any involvement in the disappearance of his daughter and was upset at how the investigation was handled.

    Documents detail hours, days and weeks after the disappearance of Isabel Celis

    ETA: Report alleges both Sergio and Becky failed polygraph tests. I'm questioning the test integrity here and whether the investigators were so focused on the family...:eek:
     
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    Thanks for checking & those older articles Seattle1! :)
     
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    Christopher Clements appeared before a Pima County Superior Court judge Monday. He showed up a little late because of a delay in his transfer from Maricopa County. They're holding him there on burglary charges.

    The state plans to have its list of witnesses ready to go by August. A trial date could be set at his next court hearing in October.

    Trial date to be set for man accused of killing Tucson girls
     
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    The court intends to set a trial date for the man accused of killing two young girls -- 6-year-old Isabel Celis and 13-year-old Maribel Gonzalez.

    Christopher Clements appeared before a Pima County Superior Court judge Monday. He showed up a little late because of a delay in his transfer from Maricopa County. They're holding him there on burglary charges.

    The state plans to have its list of witnesses ready to go by August. A trial date could be set at his next court hearing in October.

    Trial date to be set for man accused of killing Tucson girls
     
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    I followed Isabel’s case until it seemingly went cold. I heard that her body had been recovered but when I heard that CC was involved in her disappearance, it was a Bombshell! I’m glad Sergio is no longer a suspect.

    I question whether Isabelle resisted CC when he woke her up and removed her from her bed. Sergio and CC are both dark skinned with short, dark hair and both are middle aged and appear to be roughly the same height, weight and body type. Imo, Isa could easily have mistaken CC to be her father whom she believed would be entering her bedroom to awaken her in the morning. Isabel went to bed at 11 pm which is quite late for a 6-year old who had to get up early to play sports and if she was in a deep sleep and had no reason to believe the man wasn’t her father, it’s possible that Clements lifted Isabelle out of her bed and carried her out the window and into his vehicle parked nearby without waking her.

    Do people believe it was CC who the next door neighbor heard at 6 am? Any idea what time Clements abducted Isabel?

    This abduction was not recorded on any of the surveillance cameras in the neighborhood and there are no eye witnesses who saw CC commit this crime. Were his fingerprints found on the screen he removed from the Isabel’s window or did he wear gloves?

    Isabel was a child (6) when she was abducted by CC and traces of THC and alcohol were found in MG'system during the autopsy who was a young teenager.
     
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    I think he may be more clever than people are giving him credit for...with all that info about Isabel's dad from the police files, his attorney is going to be able to get a damn good foothold on reasonable doubt. He gets the theft charge dropped....then gets acquitted on the murder....maybe he's not so dumb after all.
     
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    BBM I don't like this at all and the fact that Sergio was not serious sounding when he called to report she was missing, almost like he had to do it because his wife would wonder why he didn't. MOO
     
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    Didn't he lead detectives to the 2 bodies he buried? I am not sure he can explain that too easily.
     
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    The difficulties I've long had with what we were told about the investigation is first, it's not dark at
    6 AM for somebody to attempt a home invasion/kidnapping.

    Second, I had problems that the neighbors story was not corroborated by anybody else. She claims the dogs were barking but this was only heard by herself.

    CC was an experienced offender, and he may have also used chloroform to disable Isabel.

    I don't recall any info released on finger prints. In fact, I only recall a shower curtain taken from a parked vehicle in their driveway, and possible blood drops located in Isabelle's room.

    I also believe LE was able to keep substantially all the evidence they have from the public under the pretense that it would jeopardize the investigation targeting Sergio, and people bought it.

    After awhile, I began to realize that we only saw/heard a couple snippets of Sergio's entire life, and although his 911 call and interview was bizarre, it was not lost on me that people who experienced more than a couple soundbites of his life were sticking by both Becky and Sergio including employers,
    co-workers, family and friends. To my knowledge, there was only one man that allegedly coached with Sergio that reportedly found him suspicious.

    The family was also consistent in voicing their frustration that investigators were wasting precious time focusing on them and not looking elsewhere.

    It's really no wonder that the cousin JM packed up and fled to back Florida -- refusing to talk to anybody!

    MOO
     
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    well Maribel was found way back a few days after she disappeared. He gave up the location of Isa in exchange for dismissal of the burglary charges. but i agree how is he gonna get off if he knew where they were?
     
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