AZ - Maya Koistinen, 6 days, smothered, Phoenix, 8 April 2013

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  1. Tonya421

    Tonya421 New Member

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    Phoenix police have arrested a 36-year-old mother of nine on suspicion of first-degree murder in the suffocation death of her newborn daughter.

    At this point, nothing seemed out of the ordinary," Thompson said. "The information the officers received initially was that the mother had taken some medication and had fallen asleep."

    According to the police report, an autopsy found signs of possible suffocation.

    But a review of past Child Protective Services records indicated Maya's death might not have been an accident.

    http://www.kptv.com/story/22089722/woman-arrested-in-suffocation-death-of-6-day-old-daughter

    Police said Nina Koistinen told them she smothered Maya because she thought she had too many children and that she was jealous of the attention her husband was giving the newborn.
     
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  3. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    Just no words. What a shame! Poor dad for Fsthers day!
     
  4. jjenny

    jjenny Active Member

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    There is a solution for having too many children. It's called birth control. Per the husband, they tried for years and years to manage her mental illness? It never occurred to him to use birth control?
    Boggles the mind.
     
  5. DairyGirl

    DairyGirl New Member

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    O.M.G. Did you read that story? There are no words. So many failed that baby. Nine children and she is bipolar, schizophrenic and suffers from depression, not to mention saying things about hurting her children and an intentional car accident. And yet no one intervened and her husband kept getting her pregnant. Reminds me so much of Andrea Yates. RIP baby Maya.
     
  6. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Andrea Yates came to mind instantly as well as "Quiverfull". I notice she's also in AZ and I wonder if Mormonism played a role.
     
  7. Gardenlady

    Gardenlady New Member

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    This husband should be the one in jail, and the mother should be hospitalized for mental health treatment.

    This enrages me. :furious: Like others, it seems like a repeat of Andrea Yates' situation. Why is this man continuing to impregnate this woman, knowing she has uncontrolled medical conditions?! Did no one get her help, or even try t have her committed, after the accident that is suspected to have been intentional? After the talk of wanting to suffocate some of the kids? :banghead:

    A special thanks to poster jjenny, for asking why the HUSBAND, knowing of his wife's mental conditions, did not use birth control.
     
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    Gardenlady New Member

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    Gardenlady New Member

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    Omg... Quote from lay pastor of their church (from here: http://www.kpho.com/story/22102615/ex-member-pll-church-has-blood-on-its-hands )

    :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
     
  11. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Huh? Suffocating babies is able to handle them?
     
  12. Tonya421

    Tonya421 New Member

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  13. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Whenever people use the will of deities as an excuse for something like this, I notice they stop the chain of logic wherever it seems most convenient.
     
  14. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Ditto. First thing I thought of was Rusty Yates....

    Such a sad situation. I don't feel sorry for the dad in this case.
     
  15. thefragile7393

    thefragile7393 Chronically sleep deprived

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    Quiverfull movement and Mormonism are two different things.

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  16. thefragile7393

    thefragile7393 Chronically sleep deprived

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    Whatever someone wants to worship is fine by me. Plenty of people-women included-do ok in "patriarchal nutcase religions." If they are happy, no one needs to judge.
    This woman did not fare well. That does not mean all women with similar beliefs would not fare well. I have met many in my years as a homeschooling mom, and while I don't ascribe to the same beliefs I found the majority to be decent people. I don't disagree with the issues beliefs like this can raise. I just don't see a reason to criticize any and all women who.choose this belief set.
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  17. Gardenlady

    Gardenlady New Member

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    I didn't criticize the women in these sects - I said they need to run away from them. :twocents:
     
  18. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Respectfully, that's why I used the words in two separate sentences.
     
  19. Tonya421

    Tonya421 New Member

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    I don't care what deity people choose to believe/worship; if someone wants to worship the Popeyes' Chicken sign, that's fine by me, but quit hurting/killing your kids in the name of your religion
     
  20. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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  21. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    404 on that link.
     

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