AZ - Ryan Gallagher, 17 mos, dies in hot car, Phoenix, 30 Oct 2007

Discussion in 'Crimes-Spotlight on Children' started by Nocgirl, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. Nocgirl

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  3. Amraann

    Amraann Former Member

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    Lets all note how the business man who had the alarm on his car did not go to jail even though he kept turning the alarm off while his child died.
    I guess his child WAS his priority???
     
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    Sorry if she was overwhelmed with being a Mom! Who isn't? So sad her child wasn't a priority. That sweet baby. I really hope this was an accident. Friends and family saying she wanted her freedom?
     
  5. SadieMae

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    She apparently had no interest or time to be a mother. At 22, she knew there were things she could have done NOT to get pregnant or options available if she didn't want to keep her baby.
     
  6. SeriouslySearching

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    This child didn't die which could be the difference, but still...it does point out how much it varies upon prosecution of such an offense.

    Tulsa County prosecutors say they will not charge a woman who left her one-month-old son in a hot car earlier this year. The child was left in a locked car outside an Owasso business with the window rolled up in August. Temperatures at the time were 104 degrees.

    http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=138606
     
  7. AmandaBrown23

    AmandaBrown23 Im just living among all the madness

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    They always "forgot". Yeah right. Poor little baby.
     
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    I have 3 children. They are older now but I can tell you I never once "forgot" they were in their car seats in the back of the car! I'll never understand this....not ever!
     
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    my son is 21 months old, and believe me, if i left the car without him @ 17 months old, the world would know it- its not like a 3 month old who sleeps most of the time and is quiet in the car... sometimes my son is so loud, jabbering away to himself, i have to turn the radio up loud just to hear the traffic report at 7 in the morning...
    I know its not the daycare or caregivers responsibility, but both places ive taken my kids, would call me if they weren't there when they were supposed to be...
     
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    I totally agree! If they were communicating with their children instead of talking on their cellphones, listening to their music, or otherwise being so self-absorbed...they would KNOW their children were there!! :bang:
     
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    There seems to be a huge disparity in the ways these types of cases are handled - with people on the lower end of the socio-economic system bearing the harshest punishments.

    My prayers for this overwhelmed young mother.
     
  12. SadieMae

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    I have noticed in some of the threads about it here also. It seems to be more "accidental" when the parent/s are middle/upper class, than if a poor single mom does it. I can understand where the mother has NO daycare and takes the baby to work, it's no way accidental the child was left in the car.
     
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    Me either! And, to go all that time, in this case 7 hours, and she never thought about her child, never thought to take 30 seconds on her break and check-in with the sitter? I don't understand as a parent how you go all day with such a young child and never think about them, which might then remind you, child is in car!!:banghead:
     
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    I agree SadieMae, the doctor was not charged but why is this girl who works at Hooters being charged. I am sure the doc got a lawyer right away though... I do not understand how someone can forget their baby but I don't condone her being charged when other people have not been.
     
  15. Nocgirl

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    This girl is being charged because it is very obvious from what her friends and family are saying, its possible this was not an "accident".

    NO mother that loves her child passionately, and has bonded with the child, forgets about them for 7 hours. I think about my 3 year old 24/7 and when she is not with me, I think of her every few minutes.

    Some mothers are charged, some are not and it all depends on each circumstance. I am thinking this mother thought the child was a burden, interfered with the dating and love life, etc..
     
  16. Details

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    I think it's an accident. Whatever she said, however much she may have had mixed feelings about being a mother - her car was parked where people were walking by it - police theorize the tinted windows made the child hard to see - but if she wanted him dead, she would have parked someplace more isolated.


    Definite "class" tones to this report though - they have to specify she was a waitress at "Hooters" - which has a tone of - "one step up from a pole-dancer or prostitute".
     
  17. iNTERESTEDWOMAN

    iNTERESTEDWOMAN I'll trade you a bushel of corn for a barrel of oi

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    She was a Hooters Waitress, I can guarantee you were her mind was...and probably other body parts.

    (Yes, I know I'm stereotyping, but she could get paid just as well at Red Lobster or a nice streak house, she just rather have men gawking at her and be the center of attention) I bet she spent more time on her hair that day, than her child.
     
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    This case so reminds me of what happened here in Ohio recently. I am going to have to paraphrase the circumstances.....

    The mother was an Assistant Principal (?) or Principal of a School, and she had her child in her SUV in the moring and stopped to buy doughnuts for a school meeting. She then when to the school and had her meeting, etc. She did NOT realize that she had forgotten to drop off her child at the daycare until the police came to the school to tell her the child was dead and took her into custody.

    Live videos show she was extremely distraught............she was not charged.

    I also thought, how can a Mother FORGET that their child is in the vehicle??? But after listening to this mother and seeing how distraught she was over the fact she HAD CAUSED THE DEATH of her child, I think I can give a little leeway and say, okay...........hard for me to accept, but it can happen to the best of us.

    However, in this case it appears that it is "alleged" that she forgot. Totally different circumstances.

    I agree that at 22 years old, you are still a child yourself. So it was probably a case of forgetting and not a case of intentional muirder.

    Either way, in both cases a child died from forgetfulness.
     
  19. Littledeer

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    Interested:

    You were stereotyping unfortunately. I used to work at Hooters and Max Doogan's but now working for the State. And in none of those jobs were the kids LESS IMPORTANT than me. They were my number ONE priority.

    I know, it's hard not to stereotype......... I've caught myself doing it at times!!
     
  20. hipmamajen

    hipmamajen I love the friends I have gathered together on thi

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    Maybe there needs to be legislation at the federal level, so that these cases are treated more evenly?

    I just don't get it. At one point, I had THREE kids age 2 and under, one of them medical needs who required various therapies and treatments (my twins were born when my oldest was 26 months old.) I don't think anyone could have been more overwhelmed than I was at the time! I never "forgot" my kids anywhere. How do you forget a human being?
     
  21. hipmamajen

    hipmamajen I love the friends I have gathered together on thi

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    OK, I just went to read the actual article. I'm having a hard time believing this was an accident.

     

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