AZ - Sex abuse probe after patient in vegetative state has baby, Phoenix, 29 Dec 2018 *Arrest*

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  1. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Why is the animal charged with sexual assault/vulnerable adult abuse and not rape?

    Ahhh, may the day come he is a victim of “vulnerable adult abuse”.

    It will be interesting to learn, was he the regular nurse for this patient, during his shift? What, exactly, was he doing when attending to her? Was rape a regular occurrence? Bet it didn’t happen just once. Moo
     
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  2. claudianunes

    claudianunes Well-Known Member

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    I hope he never breathes the same air as that child.
     
  3. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    That was not meant to be "Maga", it is in relationship to INA law. Which is relevant.

    I don't think that citizenship is rescinded very often, and in this case, it definitely merits review.
     
  4. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Well said. Moo
     
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  5. truetexan

    truetexan The facts will lead to the truth

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    How on earth did the pregnancy go undetected? She most likely had a catheter that needed changes during that 9 MONTHS Right?
     
  6. claudianunes

    claudianunes Well-Known Member

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    Do we know if he wasn't born in the US?
     
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  7. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    Defer. Before this focuses away from the victim and baby.
     
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  8. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Wow.
    I'm not sure proving penetration will be possible since she gave birth. Man I hope there is enough here to put this guy away.

    If she's aware that worries me that he will use that to claim she's not incapacitated. I am also concerned about him having parental rights, we've seen it happen before.

    I hate this case so much.
     
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  9. cybervampira

    cybervampira Well-Known Member

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    Nurse, 36, who was arrested for raping incapacitated patient, 29, is placed on $500,000 bond | Daily Mail Online
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    The 36-year-old is a devout Christian who tours local churches in Phoenix with his sister (right) under the group name, 'SLEEPLESSSOLJAZ'

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    Sutherland divorced from his wife last Bridgett last year

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    Bridgett owns a catering company which Sutherland has worked for
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    According to court documents, the motion of divorce was ordered on December 28, 24 hours before the birth of the victim's child (pictured: Sutherland sings at Bridgett's birthday in October, 2016)
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Christian rapper or raper?!
     
  11. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    A nurse in Arizona has been charged with sexual assault after a vulnerable patient under his care gave birth.

    The suspect has been named as Nathan Sutherland, 36, who worked at the Hacienda Healthcare clinic.
    Nurse held in incapacitated woman's birth
     
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  12. K_Z

    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    Hacienda HealthCare sexual-assault case: Who is nurse Nathan Sutherland?

    Link to a bio about NS's christian rap duo.

    SLS (Sleeplessouljaz) | CD Baby Music Store

    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_music_1?ie=UTF8&field-artist=Sls+(Sleeplessouljaz)&search-alias=music

    SLS (SLEEPLESSOULJAZ) | Christian/Gospel from Gilbert, AZ
     
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  13. inmyhumbleopinion

    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp Staff Member Moderator

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    “Phoenix Police Chief Jeri Williams said at a news conference that 36-year-old Nathan Sutherland was arrested and will be charged with one count of sexual assault and one count of vulnerable adult abuse for the incident at the Hacienda Healthcare facility in Phoenix.

    [SBM]

    The chief said that officers used ‘good old-fashioned police work’ in addition to DNA tests on the baby to find a match and made the arrest. Sutherland had worked at the facility since 2011, officials added.

    We owed this arrest for the victim, we owed this arrest for the newest member of our community, that innocent baby,’ Williams said.

    [SBM]

    ‘We may not know how many times this occurred,’ Phoenix police spokesman Tommy Thompson told reporters. Investigators had obtained a court order to collect DNA from Sutherland, which was compared to DNA from the baby boy.

    [SBM]

    The baby boy is ‘doing well,’ according to Thompson, who added that it's the community's job to protect the child.

    ‘We can't choose how we come into this world,’ he told reporters.

    [SBM]“ (BBM)
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ive-state-who-gave-birth-at-care-facility.amp

    Kudos to Chief Williams and her team.
     
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  14. K_Z

    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    Phoenix police arrest 36-year-old nurse in Hacienda HealthCare rape
     
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    inmyhumbleopinion #NeverGivingUp Staff Member Moderator

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  16. K_Z

    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    She may or may not have a catheter-- likely not, as she has been incapacitated for 26 years, and the infection issues for a long term catheter are enormous.

    As to "how did no one see the physical changes of pregnancy?"-- As a severely disabled person who is unable to move herself, walk, shift positions, etc-- her physical condition may have masked the ordinary changes of pregnancy. It's possible she didn't have a regular menstrual period, although clearly she was ovulating at least some of the time.

    She is likely dependent on a feeding tube, and long term patients on the high sugar liquid tube feed diets often develop truncal obsesity, in addition to laxness of skeletal and abdominal muscles, combined with stiffness and contractures, etc. Her physical body habitus in the abdominal area ("shape") may have concealed a growing uterus. The baby may have been very small, while full term-- we don't know. She may have limb (hip) contractures making her physical shape difficult to assess for the usual signs of pregnancy.

    Just some of the issues with a decades-long condition of immobility/ incapacitation.
     
  17. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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  18. K_Z

    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    Details on the 911 call at the time of the baby's birth. Yikes.

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/We-had-no-idea-she-was-pregnant-911-call-13528826.php

    Can you just imagine the profound shock of walking into the patient's room and finding a recently delivered infant struggling to breathe under the sheets of an incapacitated patient?? Holy buckets.

    Nursing home staff are not trained or prepared for this kind of thing. I hope they're all doing ok.
     
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    K_Z Verified Anesthetist

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    Former co-worker shocked at Nathan Sutherland's arrest in sexual assault case at Hacienda Healthcare

    Former co-worker reacts to arrest of Nathan Sutherland
     
  20. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    Diapers. But still. Yea, how did this go unnoticed? IMO, itvdidnt, it was kept quiet. Any doctor would HAVE to notice, imo. Did they think her breasts were suddenly enlarging for no reason?
    I’m confused how the family didn't notice a weight gain. However, we don’t know, was the victim completely covered with a blanket during visits?
    Omg, the nurse is a hideous disgusting pig that probably is guilty of more than this with female patients.
    Why is a male nurse even alone with a female patient?
    I couldn’t be ill enough to have him in my room or allow him to touch me. Jmo
     
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