GUILTY AZ - Willa 6, Colby 5 & Austin Rawlings 5, found dead, flooded creek, parents charged, Nov 29 2019

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  1. Dontknow?

    Dontknow? Well-Known Member

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    We have dry riverbeds called washes until it rains and they become rivers. The water flows at a very fast speed. Many have crossed the do not enter when flooded only to have their bodies found 5 plus miles away.

    I'd think the dad will have great remorse soon. If it says do not enter when flooded then don't.

    RIP all.
     
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  2. Davia18

    Davia18 Verified Human

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    What angers me is that here in Arizona it's a moto "turn around or drown" EVERYTIME we have a storm there is warnings after warnings, not only signs including our lite up adot signs but on the radio on TV. I was born and raised here and it has been drilled into my head "turn around or drown" I feel for this entire family but it's hard not to be angry. I believe he will be charged with something, if nothing else for disobeying traffic signs. Perhaps even having to pay for the recovery of vehicle and children. JMO IMO MOO
     
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  3. WhatDidYouDo

    WhatDidYouDo Well-Known Member

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    This is def negligent homicide - he made a very conscious decision to put his kids at risk. And I'm sorry but I get that sometimes fight or flight takes over but how can BOTH parents have left the kids behind? Did they rescue other kids? or was it just adults safe in the end?
     
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  4. grammieto5

    grammieto5 Well-Known Member

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    There were nine people in this tragedy. Two adults, and seven children. The adults swam to safety, four of the seven children survived, the bodies of the two five-year olds were found. As I write, as far as I know one six-year-old child has not been found. I have no idea how the four children survived. The two adults do not want to talk about what happened. I have just two questions, how do you leave children in a vehicle in the middle of a river, which had many warning signs and multiple barricades, and how do you give an interview while your child is still missing?????? DAMN, our sweet baby Caylee Anthony is going to need a bigger rainbow for all the sweet innocent souls joining her.
     
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  5. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    Of course we all knew, but the search for Willa is officially a recovery instead of a rescue.

    Ugh. I wish I could change the title. “Daniel & Lacey Rawlings drive around barricades to cross flooded creek, 3 children drowned.” When I started the thread I didn’t know Daniel had actually admitted to driving around the barricades and warning signs.

    I hate how people (not us) are pussyfooting around the culpability of the adults and treating them with kid gloves.

    The mayor has announced plans to build a bridge over the creek, which is great, but maybe in the meantime don’t drive through closed off flooded creeks with young children. Kill yourselves, fine.

    Search for missing 6-year-old girl in Tonto Basin now a recovery instead of rescue
    Missing young girl's pants found in Arizona creek as search continues
     
  6. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    It appears the youngest children in the group, two five year olds and one six year old, were left to fend for themselves. Or maybe they really were in the bed of the truck and were washed away. As you said the parents aren’t talking, so we don’t know. It seems like it was an every man, woman and child for themselves type situation.
     
  7. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    Even the media! I’ve seen this line in many different articles and I can’t take it any longer.

    Like it was the children’s choice to stay behind in the vehicle!
    We’re just going to wait in the car. Y’all go on ahead.

    Tonto Creek: Rawlings girl still missing; search continues in Arizona
     
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  8. grammieto5

    grammieto5 Well-Known Member

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    So these parents choose to not follow the rules, and because of their choice three children die. The Dad says there needs to be more done. And so the Mayor is going to build a bridge. I wonder if the bridge will be named after the father.
     
  9. Davia18

    Davia18 Verified Human

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    I would not be ok with that JMO

    I saw hundreds of people lined the streets to welcome the Rawlings family home.
     
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  10. grammieto5

    grammieto5 Well-Known Member

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    Neither would I. There is A LOT of manpower looking for this child, while the parents give an interview, saying they do not want to talk about what happened, not to mention the money spent.
     
  11. Davia18

    Davia18 Verified Human

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    I'm not heartless and have been part of a child being lost to a tragic accident. However I wouldn't consider this an accident and I understand this family lost 2 of their children and one of their relatives BUT, it could have been avoided and the more details I hear the more angry I get.
     
  12. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    They have deep roots in the community. They are Latter-day Saints (like Travis Alexander), and Daniel is a church leader. I can’t imagine someone not facing charges for this, but I strongly doubt he will.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
     
  13. WhatDidYouDo

    WhatDidYouDo Well-Known Member

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    So selective prosecution might strike again. hmmmmm
     
  14. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    Residents say it’s a way of life over there, giving the impression that people drive through that creek on the daily. Are there any locals here who can confirm this?

    There was also a townhall meeting about it, here are a few tidbits. Mostly more blame being heaped on others.

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    Sherry Alquist speaks out during meeting.

    Tonto Basin Residents Seek Solutions
    (Don’t drive around barricades to cross dangerously flooded bodies of water?)

    Great idea, Scooter! More signs! Bigger signs! Maybe a dome that drops around the creek when someone tries to drive across it. Also the Rawlings are a local family that you say should know when the water is too deep to cross.

    (Can’t quote this enough.)

    Tonto Basin residents seek solutions days after fatal creek crossing leaves 2 kids dead and 1 missing
     

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  15. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    Oh Davia, was this your child? My heart goes out to you.
     
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  16. Davia18

    Davia18 Verified Human

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    No it was an accident involving my daughter and her best friend and her friend passed. Which was also my best friends daughter. It's an unimaginable hurt and would never down play what this family has been through and will continue to go through. I really do feel they should be held accountable. JMO
     
  17. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    And the monies the parents are receiving, almost $50,000 so far. It doesn’t say anything about helping aid the search, it’s specifically for the family. (Who knows, they may be donating some of the money to the volunteers and the cost of the search, but I think we would have heard about it.)
     
  18. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    I'm sorry but this begging for money for EVERYTHING these days is SO out of hand. Seeing people get such amounts for all these 'accidents' just makes those that are nefarious do it intentionally to reap the rewards.
     
  19. grammieto5

    grammieto5 Well-Known Member

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    Deep roots to a community should not mean you do not have to follow the rules. I have a feeling there will be no consequences for this couple.
     
  20. Snoods

    Snoods Flounciest Faux Former Member

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    I know. When I see fundraisers like these I think about all the organizations that are desperate for donations to function. Many don’t even pay themselves salaries, they exist purely on donations. I donate a paltry $20 a month to one such animal rescue organization.

    The name of the fundraiser is “RAWLINGS FAMILY TONTO BASIN ACCIDENT” (They have it in all caps.)

    Accident? How does ANYONE consider deliberately driving around barricades and past warning signs into a flooded, fast-moving creek with a truckload of kids an accident?
     

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