BELIZE - Alison MacKenzie, 43, tourist, from AZ, Rendezvous Caye, 18 Jan 2020

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  1. SAMS

    SAMS TC Writer

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    Has her family gone over to Belize to join the bf? How long have these two been dating MOO
     
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  2. diggndeeperstill

    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    From all sources it’s been said they were in Rendevous Caye, so camping is the only option.
    From your link:

    Above – Rendezvous Caye.

    The trip is a ‘simple’ camping trip with Raggamuffin supplying all camping equipment with mats and sheets being provided. Passengers sleep in the units that they travel in ie on average 2 persons to each tent or if they are traveling on their own, their own tent, to allow for privacy. On Rendezvous Caye’s infrastructure will allow for camping only whilst on our new Ragga Caye, the second night, there is a non camping option.




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    There is one Rendevous Caye and Ragga Caye. It’s been reported they were on Rendevous Caye.
     
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  3. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    Could there be sounds of waves that may have dampered sounds of her getting up?
    Sand floors, her steps would not have been heard. Unless she spoke to him, he may have slept right through it. IMO
     
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  4. LarryLujack

    LarryLujack Well-Known Member

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    Are you a middle aged person and have you ever slept in a tent on the beach? You are also assuming they slept on the sand and that there was not some sort of mattress pad/platform between it and the tent. You are most likely correct about no a/c but that does not mean the air temperature was not pleasant.

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  5. diggndeeperstill

    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know that my age matters. But I will say I have definitely been around middle aged or almost 60 year olds and sleeping in a tent would be uncomfortable for most. Heck, I hate it when my vacations rentals have bad beds! And yes, I know the tents could be on sand or a platform, I’d think sand is the better of the two options. I do know based on my quote and link above they do provide mats and sheets. I’ve actually seen pics of these tents on unapproved sources so I can’t link.

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    FWIW- it is possible he slept through. I just happen to think that’s easier to do in the comforts of your own home or bed.


     
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  6. diggndeeperstill

    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    American Tourist Missing In Belize

    A missing persons report was filled by 58-year-old Paige Rote, an American Musician of Colorado, who told police that on January 17, 2019, he was on a tour along with the 43-year-old American and 16 other persons. They camped for the night at Rendezvous Caye in Belize and about 6am when Rote woke up, McKenzie was nowhere to be found.
     
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  7. LarryLujack

    LarryLujack Well-Known Member

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    My three theories:

    1) she was intoxicated and fell into the water, went for a swim and never came out
    2) she left the island by boat with someone else. most unlikely
    3) foul play at the hands of someone with the tour operator

    I don't think the boyfriend was involved. All conjecture of course.
     
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  8. UnderstandBlue

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    She certainly looks like a seasoned traveler from her Instagram account posted above. Astonishing that they haven't found her. But as some of the tour company info states, the surf can be quite rough at night.

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    Returning with the boat

    The boat is NOT an option of returning! The fundamental reason is pure and simple – safety. The return leg for the crew only is undertaken (weather and equipment permitting) at night. The sea is more rough as the boat travels against the current and in the darkness navigation becomes more difficult. The crew are immensely capable of this journey but we do not permit passengers to come back with the crew to ensure that the boat and the crew are fully focused on their task and therefore safe."

    Raggamuffin Tours
     
  9. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    Following.
    What a sad and bizarre case.
    That island they stayed at is TINY.
    How does one go missing from there ?
    Even if a local or tour guide kidnapped her, they'd have to take her back to the mainland by boat without anyone else noticing.
    Did the boyfriend/husband go out with her for a midnight swim ?
    I'm thinking shark attack. :(

    In a place like that with long stretched of shallow or waist/chest high water, it would be so tempting to go out and skinny dip in the moonlight.
    Without realizing the dangers.
    Sad as it must have been an exciting trip until this happened.
     
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  10. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    So far I'm not getting a Robyn Gardener vibe.
    Again that island is small.
    No place to hide anyone and if you left with someone you'd have to take a boat.
    Possibly she went alone for a swim and drowned ?
     
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    Hmm this is so odd. This island is teeny tiny. I'm assuming their tour group was the only people on the island that night?

    I am interested in the captain escorting her back at 230 AM. I'm assuming LE have spoken with him. I wonder why he told her it wasn't good to be out walking around at night. With such an isolated island and probably only the tour group on there, I wouldn't assume it would be unsafe in terms of other people accosting you. Perhaps he said it due to the water and her behaving erratically? I am still curious on what they mean by her acting erratically. Like drunk? Or on something else?
     
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    Or was taken away to hide evidence.
     
  13. Seajay

    Seajay Never pass up an opportunity to pee.

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    Wonder why they would say it’s dangerous to be out walking around other than falling in the ocean and disappearing? I mean do they have pirates that go to the islands and kidnap people and disappear them? Just wondering. JMO
     
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    I'm 45 and have been perimenopausal for approximately 3 years. May i say the anxiety is out of this world. Out of nowhere hot and anxious. Every woman is unique in their own but I couldn't sleep in a tent all night to save my life. Different body aches and I'm in good shape.
    Imo. I was looking up crocodiles and alligators in belize. God forbid ... Her sister replied she didn't like water and didnt drink. Maybe even a rouge wave?!? There is a story of a family on the beach and half the family disappeared drug out to sea never found again. Terrifying. Never take your eyes off the water i hear. Jmo
     
  15. happyday

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    Hey LietKynes! Her sister said she’s scared of the water so I doubt she’d swim by herself.
     
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    was there erratic behaviour?

    ETA: never mind - I saw the quote about it
     
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    BBM: This is interesting to me. Is it known if the crew returned on the boat that night? If so, what time would they leave the island? Could she have been on the boat? I'm aware that there is a comment that the Captain escorted her back to her tent at around 2 am. Wondering if maybe she was demanding to go back and that is why she was being described as acting erratic. Just thinking here.
     
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  18. GordianKnot

    GordianKnot On Time Out

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    BBM:

    Would this be the same sister who stated that she's never seen AK intoxicated and that she didn't really drink?

    Seems to me that the very LAST thing someones who's "scared of the water" is going to do is go cruising around on a catamaran and then bunk down in a sandbox smack dab in the middle of the deep, blue sea.

    I'm sure her family members are feeling desperately anxious and fearful.
    Denial is one of the mind's most primitive defense mechanisms.
    I think the sister may be telling herself whatever she needs to believe in order to hang onto some glimmer of hope that the simplest explanation isn't the correct one:

    The absolutely overwhelming likelihood here is that AK is in the water, and the cause is misadventure, i.e., a tragic accident.

    Having said that, I understand her family not being ready to accept that scenario yet.

    JMO.
     
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    I personally doubt that the Google reviewer is the BF.

    I am wondering, if the crew returns to the main island each night instead of camping with the tourists, how did the captain see her at 2:30 am and escort her to her tent? Where was he staying??
     
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  20. LietKynes

    LietKynes "Law is the ultimate science" Liet Kynes

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    What a strange case.
    She just vanished.
    Wonder if there was a rogue wave ?
    But it would wash everyone away, not just Alisa.
    Unless she was swimming. But if she was afraid of water, she might go wading a bit to her ankles.
    And I can't see her paddling a boat away from there, alone.
    ( By 'boat' I'm thinking small canoe or a paddle boat that you go with another person. You can paddle them by yourself as well; with the foot pedals. )
     
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