Benjaman Kyle - Those who still need investigation - WE NEED YOUR HELP!

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  1. Earthbound Misfit I

    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Post persons still needing investigation on this thread.

    Side by Side Photo Comparison Thread:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55629

    Those who still need investigation:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60373

    Link to thread for those who can be ruled out for sure.
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60335

    Link to thread for those who CANNOT be ruled out as BK:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59719

    Link to gmail document with the most up to date information regarding possible matches and the work that still needs to be done:
    http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcbh2vh8_11sc9wwrgg

    Link to Benjaman Kyle Discussion Thread
    50/60 year old Amnesia Victim Savannah, GA Thread #3 ([​IMG] 1 2)
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    POST #2

    :confused: AZ- Charles Martin Russell (KTCan#2#278) Too short
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/russell_charles.html
    :confused: AZ- Donald Kenneth Shelberger (KTCan#2# 278) ?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/s/shelenberger_donald.html
    :confused:AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Too Tall, Blond Hair
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html

    :confused: CA- Gary David Poole (concernedperson#1#553) Too Tall
    http://www.nampn.org/cases/poole_gary.html
    :confused: CA- John Dean Rescorle (snarky malarkey#2#283)?
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rescorl_john.html
    :confused: CA- Larry Michael Wood (KTCan#2#260)?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_larry.html

    POST #3

    :confused: CA- Mark Lane Smith (KTCan#1#229) ?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/s/smith_mark.html


    POST #4

    :confused: CA- William Herbert Pear (KTCan#1#119)?
    http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473
    :confused: CO- Eugene Fish (Sable#2#91) I think he can be ruled out because his fingerprints are most likely on file and would have been checked against Benjaman's?
    http://www.crimeandjustice.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t6193.html


    Post #5


    :confused: IA- Charles Elmquist (kaylenbabysims#1#176) Physical Disability??
    http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=39

    POST #6

    :confused: IA- Ronald L. Zellmer (kaylenbabysims#1#177) ?
    http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=245
    :confused: IA- Timothy A. Felton (aj1020#1#148) ?
    http://www.iowaonline.state.ia.us/mpic/Controller.aspx?cmd=personDetailCommand&id=19
    Note: I haven't found a photo for Timothy A. Felton yet. I will hunt for him.


    POST #9

    :confused:ME- Judd Miller (Gina M#2#109) Platnium Blond Hair
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller_judd.html
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    [​IMG] MO- Mark Anthoney Maty (Angie4b1g#1#46) His DNA is available so when Benjaman's DNA is put through CODIS (If it hasn't been already)their DNA will be compared for a match.
    http://www.jcsd.org/Missing.htm

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1006dmmo.html <--This site lists that his DNA is available.

    :confused: NC- Kenneth Raynor Childress (Gina M#2#104) ?
    http://icaremissingpersonscoldcases....Childress.html


    POST #11

    :confused: NJ- Sigfried Woelki (Mark Franzeo#2#284) ?
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1205dmnj.html


    POST #12


    :confused:NY- Michael Scott McLaughlin (KTCan#2#259) blond hair
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mclaughlin_michael.html
    :confused: NY- Samuel Arthur Todd (KTCan#2#259) He has two small scars on his left cheek near his eye.
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/t/todd_samuel.html
    :confused: NY- Steven Norman Chait (KTCan#2#259) ?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/c/chait_steven.html

    POST #14

    :confused: OH&#8211; John Koziatek (MarkFranzeo#2#284) ?
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1066dmoh.html


    POST #15

    :confused: OR- Corwin Charles Osborn (KTCan#1#229) ?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/o/osborn_corwin.html

    :confused: PA- Michael Jose Malinoski (KTCan#2#259) ?
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/malinoski_michael.html
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    We all know that most people get shorter as we age, if someone went missing in 1996 and was listed as 6'1" when they went missing could they have lost enough height to have ended up at BK's height when he was found in 2004 or would you rule the 6'1" person out as being BK?

    I'm talking about Gary David Poole who is one of the possibles for being BK. So far he is too tall to be BK and is listed as having hazel eyes but I don't want to rule out on just eye color alone because they can look completely different at different times.

    What do you all think??
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Can we have a think about how to go about this? We could divy up the list, call LE and anyone who already have fingerprints on file would be out. Then maybe dentals...Thoughts??
     
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    RKnowley - please, please, please don't discount Mueller based on age and hair color. Of all side-by-sides - I believe Douglas and BK bear the most striking resemblance. As I've mentioned, hair color - particulary blonde - changes over time. Look at the nose and chin. I realize that Douglas may seem too young. But if you consider what may have taken place in the 32 years or so since Douglas went missing, it is possible. I wish there was more info on Douglas. The only other possible match I would consider is:
    http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=4819314830473
     
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    christine2448 Retired WS Staff

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    The pic does 'strike' me.

    I haven't had a chance to see you all compare the both. Do you have a comparison done, pic and stats side by side? If so, what post...I know, I know, :slap: but I'm tired and wanted to have a quick peek if you already have it done :D and I was too lazy to read back right now....I trying to goooooo. LOL!
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    I DID NOT discount Mueller. If you look you will see that he is still on the thread for those who still need investigation. He also still has the :confused: by his name meaning "He still needs investigation." ALSO, if you look it you can see that I said that I was putting Douglas back in the mix to be considered as BK. Also, he has not been added to the "Those you can rule out for sure thread." ALSO, if you look at the document I made with the most up to date information on those who have and have not been ruled out you will see that Douglas is still listed as one who still needs investigation. Douglas has NOT been ruled out by anyone.

     
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    christine2448 Retired WS Staff

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    OH yeah, thanks, that jogged me, seeing the pics like that. Dang, yes, that certianly needs more inv. if we just go on looks.

    Thanks! RK. Fairy, thanks!

    When do you all sleep???
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    I'm sleeping now...shhhh, you will wake me :innocent:

     
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    Fairy1 Divided We Fall

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    Sorry - this looks like a "discount" to me. Maybe I misunderstood. In any case, I think it's a good match and 90% of the others can be discounted IMO. BK has some very pronounced features - that's what I'm looking at. The other physical characteristics are a match and the only other thing that could sway me is geographical difference. But then again, we live in a very mobile society and it's not that much of a stretch. 32 years is a long time.
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Putting Douglas back into the mix to be considered as being BK

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    :confused: AZ- Douglas Alan Mueller (KTCan#2#278) Blond hair, Too Young (he would be about 50 now) Too Tall at 6'1"
    http://charleyproject.org/cases/m/mueller_douglas.html
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Even though Douglas hasn't been ruled out, the reasons for why he could be ruled out appear in red next to his name. I am noting any differences that we have come up with between Douglas & Benjaman. If a :confused: remains by a name it means he hasn't been ruled out and also if he doesn't appear on the thread for those we can rule out for sure then he hasn't been ruled out for sure.
     
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    Fairy1 Divided We Fall

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    Ok - so what do we need to do to rule them out? Both have limited details. Douglas has been missing for a long time.

    I recently proposed possible match on another missing/jane doe and the Doe Netowrk contact turned out to be the missing women's daughter!!! I don't know about Douglas or William. I just wish there were more details.

    What do we do RKnowley? I am new at this.
     
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    Earthbound Misfit I Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    I wonder if Douglas Mueller's family have had his/their DNA entered into CODIS? If anyone wants to contact the Scottsdale Police and asked them if the DNA is in CODIS, that would be great. Also, Douglas' information says his Dental X-rays are available. I wonder if Benjaman's dentals are available? If Douglas were Benjaman then perhaps the dentals would match up somewhat though a lot of time has passed and BK most likely would have had work done at some point?

    This is the contact information for the Scottsdale PD and Douglas's case # is also listed.

    CONTACT
    Agency: Scottsdale (AZ) Police Department
    Phone Number: (480) 312-5000
    Case Number: 77-03053
     
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