MISTRIAL Bill Cosby -- Charged W/Aggravated Sexual Assault/Other Rape Allegations #5

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  1. matou

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  2. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Re: the legally blind claims, his right eye does look weird.

    Here's a list of the accusers, hopefully somewhat up to date.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnash...ual?bftwnews&utm_term=.jgVVRozV3l#.yiWkOm8kqB

    It's some kind of accomplishment when Buzzfeed publishes things like that. 25 beautiful wedding cakes, 9 things you will lose in 2016, 13 products for people who love poodles, 25 rude texts from your insomnia, 50 women that Bill Cosby raped...
     
  3. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Can he settle it out of court a SECOND time?
    The victim he is charged with is one who already settled with him out of court.
    That is how the information about the meds came to light, when those depos were released.
     
  4. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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  5. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    It looks like they will argue that the charges were filed because the new DA needed to score points.
    http://abc7.com/news/bill-cosby-arraigned-for-alleged-aggravated-indecent-assault/1141095/

     
  6. IzzyBlanche

    IzzyBlanche Well-Known Member

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    You can't settle criminal charges out of court. He settled with the victim in a civil case.

    I guess there's a chance he might try a plea deal, but I can't see prosecutors going for that.
     
  7. RainCheck

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    Well, it's about time! It's too bad the police and DA wouldn't help her when she reported the assault 12 years ago.
     
  8. Hoosgirl

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    Any legal eagles know if the civil settlement can be brought up at trial?
     
  9. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    EXCLUSIVE: Not even $1m bail can wipe the smile off contemptuous Bill Cosby's face as he arrives at scene of the 'crime' mansion after being charged with ‘drugging and sexually assaulting woman’

    Bill Cosby arrived home to his Elkins Park, Pennsylvania mansion smiling on Wednesday after being arraigned on sex assault charges stemming from a 2004 incident with Andrea Constand

    He was carrying a cane with him and stumbled on the way in to court earlier in the afternoon without his wife Camille by his side

    The actor was released on $1million bail and was forced to hand over his passport but did not enter a plea with a preliminary hearing set for January 14

    Constand claims Cosby gave her three blue pills with wine one night at his mansion and then sexually molested her

    The charge against him is punishable by five to 10 years behind bars and a $25,000 fine

    More than 50 women have come forward in the past year claiming they were drugged and sexually assaulted by Cosby

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-assault-Andrea-Constand.html#ixzz3vqUMPYNk
     
  10. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Could be cataracts. Easily corrected. I had cataracts in both eyes at age 48 (probably from cortico-steroidal asthma medications). Surgical procedure to remove cataracts with lens replacement. Improved my vision so it was no longer necessary to wear contacts, and I only need glasses for distance (mostly driving).
     
  11. oceanblueeyes

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    I am sure many here remember the Phil Spector case. The reason I mention his case in particular there is a law that the Judge legally can use to enter 'same like crimes' in a trial if they are a very consistent/similar pattern with what the defendant is presently charged with. Remember goofy Spector was always going around pointing his gun at his lady friends when they were alone with him? The Judge allowed all of those ladies to testify about how reckless/bizarre he was with his gun especially when drinking when he was around a woman alone. It was let in to bolster the fact that he was stupid and reckless with his weapon when he put it in Lana Clarkson's mouth and killed her.

    Since the other victims of BC had the same very similar acts done to them as the victim which caused him to be arrested I do believe this Judge will find the acts similar in nature and will allow several other victims to testify.

    Phil Spector was not arrested/charged nor convicted with any of the acts he did against the other women he was around just like BC has no arrests concerning the multiple other victims in this case. The Judge let it in because it was a pattern of behavior exhibited by the defendant.

    Imo, it will not matter if a rape kit was done immediately. We know that to be true during all of the Priests trials and the trial of Sandusky. No physical evidence was there to be admitted in any of those trials. Witness testimony is considered evidence the jury can weigh to determine guilt or innocence.

    I am sure the State will call an mental health expert to the stand to testify about the behaviors of someone who has been raped. All of these victims are very consistent in not reporting the rapes to anyone for many years even decades. Only 10% of those who are sexually assaulted/raped ever report it to LE. At least this woman did so a year later. Most victims keep the secret about their rapist whether the victim is male or female. If, and when they finally do tell anyone they are usually in later years of life usually starting in their late 30s, 40s, 50s and even 60s. Of course many victims both male and female never tell anyone..ever....about what happened to them. I am sure there are other victims of BCs who have not come forth. The other women who have.......... have been vilified by a lot of people so it will keep some of them silent forever.

    The statute of limitation had long run out when it came to my rapist and I never told one soul until I was 38 years old. Even if one's rapist is not as powerful and dominating as BC they still rule the victim by fear, and intimidation. Often they will tell the rape victim they will not be believed if they tell anyone, and the victim believes that to be true or they use threats of harm or promises to ruin the victims' life in other ways, such as ruining careers if the rapist is one who holds power, prestige, and control.

    This is not going to be a he said/ she said only, imo. A DA would never bring such serious charges against someone like BC if that is all they have. From what I read this DA was the ADA for years and has been investigating Cosby before even being elected the DA. The other DA who lost reelection was too scared to go up against Cosby even though he is probably one of the worst serial rapists of our time. In fact the newly elected DA included that in some of the political ads mentioning how the then DA shied away from charging BC, and they won the election as the new DA. So people in that town may have agreed that BC should have been arrested way back in 2005 when the victim came forward.

    Imo, this case will be won just like the many other rape cases that were tried many years later even decades later...were also won. It will be chocked full of monumental circumstantial evidence just like the other trials we have seen concerning rapes done long ago.

    Now will his lawyers try to stall the case down to a crawl? Of course, but if they wait too long until he dies most of society will always believe he was a rapist of many anyway. His life as he knew it is already gone as it is. He has lost the respect of so many who were fooled by his fake persona.

    People older than he is have stood trial before for violent acts and have been sent to prison and he is no better than them and that is where he should be. Even though I understand perfectly why the victims didn't come forward for decades, I wish at least one had back in the 60s so it would have saved many victims from being raped by him. His MO seems to be sort of like Andrew Luster who preferred to rape his victims when they were unconscious from a date rape drug he gave them all. It shows both rapists liked their victims totally helpless.

    I am sure he will try to put on his best performance ever in front of the jury, and pretend he is pushing 90 or 100 instead of 78.

    IMO
     
  12. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    The DM article that Blondie linked seems to be implying that his ability to walk improved on the way home from the court.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-assault-Andrea-Constand.html#ixzz3vqfeR6KT
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    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see BC go down for a long time for what he has done. But in my opinion, a plea deal would be a huge victory. BC's rep is already in tatters, but there are still some hangers-on, die-hard fans and conspiracy theorists who believe in his innocence. A plea deal, in which he is forced to make a full statement to his crime would be fantastic. I think it would be a victory for every victim who has come forward and faced criticism and disbelief. Who cares if he goes to jail for 10 years or 1? He's not going to survive 10 years. He's old. For me, to hear BC say yes, I slipped her this drug, and when she was incapacitated by this drug, I had non-consensual sexual contact with her, I would be pretty satisfied with that outcome.

    From the time victims started coming forward, and when Gloria Allred arrived on the scene, it was never about a conventional prosecution of a rapist. It was about changing rape culture and writing a new script for how rape cases are approached, especially when the rapist is a Teflon-coated celebrity.

    As always, all this is IMO.


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  16. Tulessa

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    Same here, and it's simple procedures.
     
  17. Truthy

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    I have to agree. Anyone I see attacking Allred is generally of the opinion that "the system" works as is right now. Most are deluded thinking false accusations are common, and many think if the woman was foolish, drank or "wanted something" she deserved it. They stubbornly sputter on about "innocent until proven guilty" while refusing to acknowledge they are not talking to jurors, so that standard does not matter.

    This will change people's attitudes when the details are more widely known. Most people defending him have NO IDEA he admits lying about the content of the drugs he gave them.

    IMHO, as always.
     
  18. IzzyBlanche

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    Excellent points, Slebby. Hearing him admit it would be sweet indeed.
     
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