Blond haired girl lying on carpet

Discussion in 'Alcala and the Unidentified' started by Billylee, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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  3. Sleuthster

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    What is that on the picture??? there is like a big red blotch.
     
  4. Claudette

    Claudette Alouette, je te plumerai

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    Sleuthster - it is most likely dust or slight damage when the picture was being developed. I did photography and developed my own film for a few years, it is very easy to get dust when you don't use professional machines and do it by hand.
     
  5. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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    Saw this same "red" splatter on another photo here, but can't remember which one, and I must first thought was because it looked red indeed that it was blood also. But then I remembered these are supposed to be from "negatives" found in 1979.
     
  6. punklove

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    Is it possible she isnt alive or very near death? Her jaw is clinched in a way that seems that shes either dead, or very close.

    It also looks like there are scratch marks on her neck and the side of her face. It seems like something is going on with her nose and the left side of her face, but its possible thats just shadows.

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  7. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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    Again I thought the exact same thing. This girl looks like the girl in the sequence of photos where she and a few other girls are standing and he's taking the photos from below. The girl with the choker or string around her neck.
     
  8. Pink Panther

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    I agree. She looks like the same girl shown here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/scpr/4425404390/in/set-72157623600695928/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/scpr/4424638331/in/set-72157623600695928/

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/scpr/4425404642/in/set-72157623600695928/

    and here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/scpr/4424638373/in/set-72157623600695928/
     
  9. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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    I'm not sure it is the same girl. Though they look a lot alike. The girl on the floor looks much younger to me, but maybe it's just because of the way she's laying also her hair looks shorter. Alcala's MO was to strangle his victims until they were almost dead, revive them and go at it again. Is this picture part of that? God, I hope not.

    Has anyone been able to figure out what the Fiv neon sign behind the girls on the wall might be. Do these "nightclub girls" pictures have their own thread yet?
     
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  11. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    It could be dust or dirt as mentioned above. Also, sometimes, old negatives will sometimes get small scratches that tear the emulsion (the chemical layer that actually changes to make the photos. That sends little bits of emulsion throughout the developing solution; sometimes they get stuck on good parts of the film and make funny-colored spots on other pictures.
     
  12. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/197dfpa.html

    Could she be Cheryl Iacovone? Missing from Secane PA since July 12 1977.

    The timeline is interesting in that Alcala was released on parole in June 1977 and was granted permission to visit relatives in New York. Ellen Hover was last seen on July 15 in NY and had written his alias in her appointment book. Looking at the map it's not too far from NY, Google maps says it takes 2-3 hours to drive, and it might have been on his way depending on which route he took.

    Is that the same blue wall as here: http://cnnnancygrace.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/00123.jpg in the photo with the Voice magazine?
     
  13. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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    This girl reminds me of Robin Samsoe only a bit older. That's what scares me about this girl.
     
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    This one has been found alive. This is Judy Cole.

    This thread needs to be moved to the found alive sub-forum.
     
  15. Billylee

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    Actually, I thought that was still in question if Judy Cole was this picture? Judy Cole stated she posed on a roof for him. That's no roof, it's a carpet, and it's the same carpet that's visible in the apartment where the Very Blond girl with headphones picture is.
     
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    We haven't confirmed that this is Judy Cole because the articles that came out naming her as one of the people in the pictures did not state which pictures she was in!
     
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    I'm very confused about Judy Cole. Just read the NYDailyNews.com article about Judy Cole that states she is picture 169. That picture is one of the redhead with the green background. So is that the right one? It's not clear at all which one she is.
     
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    Redbird - There was quite a lot of discussion about this in the general discussion thread and we are all quite confused. The NYDailyNews article refers to picture #169 but that number doesn't seem to correspond and they also showed a picture of Judy Cole as a teenager that has never been shown in the pics that were released...Unfortunately, they haven't clarified and we still don't know which one she is!
     
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    OK, here's a link to an article that has a captioned Alcala photo identifying her as Judy Cole and it is a cropped version of the same photo that BillyLee linked in the first post of this thread.
    http://www.aolnews.com/crime/articl...-serial-killer-rodney-alcalas-photos/19450712

    Looking back at the general discussion, I see it is still being debated if it is her. I think it is, but since it is still being debated, I'll go with the thread staying here until we get something more definite.
     
  20. TripleA

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    That caption sure seems to indicate that it is indeed Judy Cole...or just bad journalism.

    In my photos, that pic is listed as #166 and #226. Will have to search for #169 to see if it is the same girl.
     
  21. Bargle

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    Yep, but which? :banghead:
     

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