Bobbi Kristina Brown found unresponsive in bathtub. #2

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but at a certain time can the hospital say there's nothing they can do for her and BB will have to make a decision to move her to another facility or turn off the life support?

In the case of brain death, what usually happens is that they will tell the family to gather everyone there who needs to be there to say goodbye, and after x date, life support will be withdrawn. They do not need the family's permission to do this. This probably happens every day somewhere in the US, but we just don't hear about it. Rarely is this challenged in courts, and when it is, the family usually loses and the hospital withdraws support.

If the patient is NOT brain dead: at some point, ICU care will no longer be appropriate and the family will be referred to other facilities that are prepared to offer long term care for a patient in PVS. Insurance isn't going to pay for ICU indefinitely and at some point the ethics committee at the hospital would probably move to have the patient discharged so that the bed could be offered to another patient. The patient might go to a step down unit, or if available, a floor which offers ventilator dependent patients care with a higher nurse to patient ratio than the ICU. It just kind of depends on where the patient is and what kinds of resources are available. There usually is some kind of option available for families who refuse to withdraw support.
 
USA TODAY
Family: 'Bobbi Kristina is fighting for her life'
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2015/02/02/bobbi-kristina-medical-condition/22761163/

Police spokeswoman Lisa Holland said Brown was found "unresponsive, meaning not breathing, no heartbeat."

Inducing coma is a common approach to treating someone who has been deprived of oxygen, says Paul Vespa, a professor of neurosurgery and neurology and director of the neurointensive care unit at the University of California-Los Angeles.

Brain cells die quickly without oxygen, says Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York. Neither Vespa nor Glatter is involved in Brown's case.

Putting a patient into a medically induced coma reduces the brain swelling and inflammation that can cause brain damage, Glatter says.


THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THE PRESENT SITUATION:


Doctors typically reduce a patient's temperature for 72 hours before allowing the body to gradually warm up and emerge from the effects of sedation.

Once the body is normal temperature, doctors can examine the patient and run tests such as an EEG, MRI or CAT scan to assess the extent of brain damage and a patient's likelihood of recovery, Vespa says.


SO HOW MANY DAYS HAS SHE BEEN IN THE COMA? Much longer than 72 hours already.
 
Thank you,nrdsb4 for the informative post. Is that the type of facility where,Jahi is?
 
Some coverages are 90/10. Where they cover 90% of most things. But I think celebs and rich people have different plans that cover everything as far as advance testing and specialist and advanced procedures and the concierge treatment. Now I think Humana is 3 grand a month for 90/ 10 if a person is independently buying the coverage. So hopefully Pat made sure that some of the payments were for medical coverage. But now that I think about it; I think you have to pay most specialist out the pocket. But when it comes to a love one then spear no expense.

When I was in a car accident a year ago I was in ICU for a week and then a private room for another week. My insurance paid 80% until my deductible and out of pocket expenses combined reached $3000. That included all specialists, all PT and OT, ambulance, emergency room, everything. After I reached that $3000 point (which took about a day, I'm sure) my coverage was paid @100%. This was though a major medical insurer.
 
When I was in a car accident a year ago I was in ICU for a week and then a private room for another week. My insurance paid 80% until my deductible and out of pocket expenses combined reached $3000. That included all specialists, all PT and OT, ambulance, emergency room, everything. After I reached that $3000 point (which took about a day, I'm sure) my coverage was paid @100%. This was though a major medical insurer.
I am glad to hear that they honored payment because expenses rise quickly and some insurance will fight you tooth and nail. Thank God you picked a decent plan and kept your payments up. Some people will only be seen in the ER and be left with no real options. Good job.
 
When I was in a car accident a year ago I was in ICU for a week and then a private room for another week. My insurance paid 80% until my deductible and out of pocket expenses combined reached $3000. That included all specialists, all PT and OT, ambulance, emergency room, everything. After I reached that $3000 point (which took about a day, I'm sure) my coverage was paid @100%. This was though a major medical insurer.

Btw. This is why I didnt pick Kaiser; because sometimes you have to go elsewhere and then be worried about coverage. Jmo.
 
Blessings to Bobbi K and her family. I feel her time is near. I will watch from a distance and thank my lucky stars that no one in my family is a celebrity.
 
Thank you,nrdsb4 for the informative post. Is that the type of facility where,Jahi is?

Jahi isn't in a facility but a regular apartment with her parents in new jersey. See the jahi thread for more details.
 
Thank you,nrdsb4 for the informative post. Is that the type of facility where,Jahi is?

I doubt it because Jahi is not in a persistent vegetative state, she has been declared brain dead. From what I understood, she was being cared for at home. But I don't know for sure where she is.
 
I think it would be a great help if we had a list of "FACTS". No rumours or speculation, just facts. I am not totally up to par on BK's situation/case otherwise I would do it. I have started one and if someone wants to edit and add, please do so. MOO.

BK was found face down and unresponsive in her bathtub at approximately 10:30am, on January 31, 2015.
NG and his friend were in the house at the time. (Cable man also?)
NG found BK. His friend called 911.
NG performed CPR on BK until paramedics arrive as she had no vital signs.
No report as to how long BK had been under water before she was found.
BK was rushed to Emory University Hospital.
BK was put on a ventilator and put into a medically induced coma.
Has there been official word that BK is actually brain dead??
Has there been official word that BK has actually opening her eyes and responding??
I guess official would be an announcement made by her doctors or a spokesperson from the hospital or BB or someone speaking on his behalf.
 
I think it would be a great help if we had a list of "FACTS". No rumours or speculation, just facts. I am not totally up to par on BK's situation/case otherwise I would do it. I have started one and if someone wants to edit and add, please do so. MOO.

BK was found face down and unresponsive in her bathtub at approximately 10:30am, on January 31, 2015.
NG and his friend were in the house at the time. (Cable man also?)
NG found BK. His friend called 911.
NG performed CPR on BK until paramedics arrive as she had no vital signs.
No report as to how long BK had been under water before she was found.
BK was rushed to Emory University Hospital.
BK was put on a ventilator and put into a medically induced coma.
Has there been official word that BK is actually brain dead??
Has there been official word that BK has actually opening her eyes and responding??
I guess official would be an announcement made by her doctors or a spokesperson from the hospital or BB or someone speaking on his behalf.

She was not "rushed to Emory Hospital." She was transferred at a later date to Emory.
 
I think it would be a great help if we had a list of "FACTS". No rumours or speculation, just facts. I am not totally up to par on BK's situation/case otherwise I would do it. I have started one and if someone wants to edit and add, please do so. MOO.

BK was found face down and unresponsive in her bathtub at approximately 10:30am, on January 31, 2015.
NG and his friend were in the house at the time. (Cable man also?)
NG found BK. His friend called 911.
NG performed CPR on BK until paramedics arrive as she had no vital signs.
No report as to how long BK had been under water before she was found.
BK was rushed to Emory University Hospital.
BK was put on a ventilator and put into a medically induced coma.
Has there been official word that BK is actually brain dead??
Has there been official word that BK has actually opening her eyes and responding??
I guess official would be an announcement made by her doctors or a spokesperson from the hospital or BB or someone speaking on his behalf.

BBM

I am not sure that NG found BK. I think some reports said that Lomas found her?
 
I think it would be a great help if we had a list of "FACTS". No rumours or speculation, just facts. I am not totally up to par on BK's situation/case otherwise I would do it. I have started one and if someone wants to edit and add, please do so. MOO.

{respectfully snipped)

Hi swedie, and thank you for the idea! I believe someone else suggested such a list some days ago. The problem is that 'facts' are few and far between; that is, if they exist at all as having been 'officially' released.

In almost if not all articles I've read, whether from what ppl consider msm or tabloid sources, information is inconsistent at best. Many articles still contain the same recycled stuff, whether it's been vetted or not (again, not by any official sources). As such, a list of 'facts' will likely mean even more posts 'correcting' those prior and essentially saying the same stuff all over again.

~jmo~
 
Bobbi Kristina's Cousin 'Must Be Disregarded,' New Bobby Brown Statement Says

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But some of Bobbi Kristina's relatives haven't been around during this crisis, and a new statement from dad Bobby Brown and his lawyer spell out who can and can't speak on the family's behalf.

~Snip~

Bobby Brown: "In particularly [sic], Jerod Brown aka Jerod Carter aka YF Kennedy, continues to makes [sic] statements and appear on television, however, he has not had any communication with Bobby Brown or the Houston family.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/6472898/bobbi-kristina-bobby-brown-statement

There is a full statement from both Bobby Brown and his attorney on the site. Worth the read.
 
Swedie - BK was first taken to North Fulton hospital in Roswell GA, then transferred to Emory University hospital in Atlanta.
 
I think it would be a great help if we had a list of "FACTS". No rumours or speculation, just facts. I am not totally up to par on BK's situation/case otherwise I would do it. I have started one and if someone wants to edit and add, please do so. MOO.

BK was found face down and unresponsive in her bathtub at approximately 10:30am, on January 31, 2015.
NG and his friend were in the house at the time. (Cable man also?)
NG found BK. His friend called 911.
NG performed CPR on BK until paramedics arrive as she had no vital signs.
No report as to how long BK had been under water before she was found.
BK was rushed to Emory University Hospital.
BK was put on a ventilator and put into a medically induced coma.
Has there been official word that BK is actually brain dead??
Has there been official word that BK has actually opening her eyes and responding??
I guess official would be an announcement made by her doctors or a spokesperson from the hospital or BB or someone speaking on his behalf.
An attorney said Wednesday that his client, Maxwell Lomas, 24, of Duluth, Georgia, found Bobbi Kristina Brown face-down in a bathtub last week and called 911 at a townhome in suburban Atlanta.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bobbi-kristina-brown-case-reportedly-sparks-criminal-investigation/
 
Swedie I am not sure NG performed CPR on BK as per Steff Watts, Max Gordon did that as well.

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