Bosma Murder Trial 03.09.16 - Day 22

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    **If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
    [h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
    Reporters to follow on Twitter:

    Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
    Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton - ArianeEmory
    Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto - Matou
    Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
    Peter Ackman, CTV National News
    Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
    Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
    Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News

    Also, check this site for real time updates.

    http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/
     
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  6. inbetweendoors

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    Court now in session. The jury is being brought in. #TimBosma #BosMA

    @adamcarterCBC
     
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    SC:Jury is here and forensic video expert Michael Plaxton is back in the witness box at the Tim #Bosma murder trial.
     
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    Court now in session. The jury is being brought in.
    by Adam Carter 10:01 AM

    Video expert Robert Plaxton is back in the witness box.
    by Adam Carter 10:03 AM

    Court now seeing video from GA Masonry at 5093 Fountain St. N in Kitchener. The timestamp on this video was 29 minutes slow.
    by Adam Carter 10:05 AM

    This location is near the MillardAir hangar.
    by Adam Carter 10:05 AM
     
  9. inbetweendoors

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    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
    Court now seeing video from GA Masonry at 5093 Fountain St. N in Kitchener. The timestamp on this video was 29 minutes slow #TimBosma #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
    Now discussing video from GA Masonry on Fountain St. N. In Kitchener. #Bosma

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    This location is near the MillardAir hangar. #TimBosma #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
    GA Masonry is 100 m from the Millardair hangar. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    the next surveillance video clip were looking at (from May 6, 2013) was taken from GA Masonry on Fountain St N in Kitchener. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Looking at aerial view of hangar and nearby businesses. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
    Next surveillance video is from a masonry shop near #Millard Air hangar at #Waterloo airport #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s47 seconds ago
    GA Masonry is right by (essentially adjacent to) Dellen Millard's air hangar at the Waterloo Airport. #Bosma
     
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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 45s45 seconds ago
    This is all part of The Waterloo airport. Security cameras at GA Masonry face onto the north side (back) of Millardair hangar.

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 3m3 minutes ago
    There are actually five cameras on GA Masonry, video was recovered from each. #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
    GA Masonry had several surveillance cameras. Showing the various angles from each camera. Part of the Millardair hangar is in view. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Plaxton explaining where each of the five GA Masonry cameras are from which he obtained video. #Bosma

    ***Sounds like incinerator video is coming...
     
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    Court is seeing aerial photos of the MillardAir hangar.
    by Adam Carter 10:09 AM

    There are actually five cameras on GA Masonry, video was recovered from each.
    by Adam Carter 10:11 AM

    One of the cameras shows the north end of the MillardAir hangar.
    by Adam Carter 10:12 AM

    Another shows the northeast/east side of the hangar.
    by Adam Carter 10:12 AM
     
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    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    (What we've learned: security cameras/DVRs never have the time set correctly!)
     
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    Sorry, the northwest side. Some of the labels on Plaxton's presentation are incorrect.
    by Adam Carter 10:14 AM

    Streets around the hangar like Fountain Street and Jetliner court can also be seen on these cameras.
    by Adam Carter 10:15 AM

    Assistant Crown Tony Leitch says we're going to see a series of videos spliced together from these cameras.
    by Adam Carter 10:16 AM
     
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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    Crown Leitch says we're going to see series of videos that Plaxton has spliced together to show vehicles coming and going from hangar.

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    Forensic video analyst Michael Plaxton still in the witness box this morning

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
    He's plotting the route of #TimBosma 's alleged killers took the night he vanished using surveillance imagery
     
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    Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
    #Bosma jury now seeing a DVR seized from #Millard girlfriend Christina Noudga home. Expert recovered video from hard drive

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Also a DVR seized from Rufford Road in Etbicoke along with a hard drive. Found in bedroom of Christina Noudga, Millard's girlfriend.

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
    Now seeing a photo of a DVR for Millardair hangar seized from 5 Rufford Rd (Millard's gf Christina Noudga's house). #Bosma

    Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    Plaxton telling jury about video captured from GA Masonry, the Kitchener business across the street from the MillardAir hangar
     
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    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 50s50 seconds ago
    Plaxton says the DVR was five hours and ten mins fast when he first looked at it. A year later, it was five hours and 20 mins off. #TimBosma

    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 41s41 seconds ago
    Plaxton says this is common as the device was powered off and stored -- he calls it "drift." #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 28s28 seconds ago
    Plaxton explaining how he determines if time/date stamps are reliable. Often uses a "reliable event" such as sunset to check time.
     
  17. Typhoo1961

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    With the exception of the testimony it must be dead quiet in that courtroom right now.
     
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    Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
    Plaxton says he corrected the times by finding an event on the footage that they knew the correct time of, and working from there. #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Two functional cameras at hangar-one inside, one outside. On outside camera was turned toward wall of hangar.

    ***Wonder if that was done that night or prior?
     
  19. meterclicks

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    Plaxton now talking about the examination process of examining the hard drive in the DVR from those cameras.
    by Adam Carter 10:19 AM

    Plaxton says the DVR was five hours and ten minutes fast when he first looked at it. A year later, it was five hours and 20 minutes off. Plaxton says this is common as the device was powered off and stored -- he calls it "drift."
    by Adam Carter 10:21 AM

    Plaxton says he corrected the times by finding an event on the footage that they knew the correct time of, and working from there.
    by Adam Carter 10:22 AM

    Plaxton says he located a series of events that were recorded on the GA Masonry cameras at 34 minutes after midnight, and they continued for eight minutes. During that sequence, the SUV is moved from the north end of the hangar to the south end of the hangar. The pickup is then moved to the same location. The SUV then leaves the location.
    by Adam Carter 10:25 AM
     
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    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
    Plaxton used reflection of headlights to sync time on both Millardair cameras. #Bosma

    molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
    The outside one was turned directly toward hangar itself--so only view was of the coroner of the siding. Had to rely on reflections. #Bosma

    ***Nice Freudian auto-correct there, Molly ;)

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Plaxton says SUV and pickup truck move around hangar after midnight on May 7, 2013.

    Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
    Masonry and Millardair had motion detection cameras. #Bosma
     
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