Bosma Murder Trial 06.10.16 - Day 59 - Charge to jury

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    Tim Bosma trial: Justice Andrew Goodman to deliver charge to the jury
    CBC News Posted: Jun 10, 2016

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    Justice Andrew Goodman begins his charge to the jury today in the months-long trial of two men accused of killing Hamilton resident Tim Bosma.

    Goodman will guide the jury on the legal principles of the case, and on how they should weigh the wealth of evidence they have heard over the last four months.

    Goodman's charge is expected to take two days to complete. He'll continue speaking on Monday. After he completes his instructions to jurors, they will be sequestered until they reach a verdict.

    Live coverage of the trial starts at 9:30 a.m. ET

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    **If you would like to post tweets while court is in session, please read this thread first:
    [h=1]Bosma Murder Trial Twitter Roll Call[/h]
    Reporters to follow on Twitter:

    Jacques Gallant, Toronto Star
    Adam Carter, CBC Hamilton
    Mark Carcasole, Global Toronto
    Molly Hayes, The Hamilton Spectator
    Peter Ackman, CTV National News
    Nicole Martin, CHCH TV
    Susan Clairmont, The Hamilton Spectator
    Shannon Martin, CBC Toronto News
    Colin Butler CBC Toronto News
    Lisa Hepfner CHCH News Reporter

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    Today's the day we have all been waiting for.... let's hope the judge is very clear and specific in the instructions to the jury, in order that they may come to a proper conclusion...
     
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    Jun 10 2016 9:44 AM
    The jury is now being called in.
     
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    Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 40s40 seconds ago
    And then there were 12 a juror has been excused for undisclosed reasons. Jury in. Judge begins charge. @AM900CHML
     
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    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 7s7 seconds ago
    One of the #TimBosma trial jurors has been discharged for personal reasons that will remain private and were not read into the record.

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 7s7 seconds ago
    Goodman says he has received a note from a juror, and due to some "personal circumstances," a juror is being excused. #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 19s19 seconds ago
    The jury is back. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 23s23 seconds ago
    Goodman tells jury he received a note from one of them, respecting their request for privacy. Juror #4 is discharged. Now 12 jurors

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 29s29 seconds ago
    Jury is in at the Tim #Bosma murder trial. Judge has received note from a juror. "Due to
    personal circumstances of that juror..."
     
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    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 7s7 seconds ago
    One of the #TimBosma trial jurors has been discharged for personal reasons that will remain private and were not read into the record.

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 7s7 seconds ago
    Goodman says he has received a note from a juror, and due to some "personal circumstances," a juror is being excused. #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 19s19 seconds ago
    The jury is back. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 23s23 seconds ago
    Goodman tells jury he received a note from one of them, respecting their request for privacy. Juror #4 is discharged. Now 12 jurors

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 29s29 seconds ago
    Jury is in at the Tim #Bosma murder trial. Judge has received note from a juror. "Due to personal circumstances of that juror..."
     
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    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 4s5 seconds ago
    Earlier another juror was excused because her brother died. Only 12 jurors were going to be able to deliberate after the judge's charge.

    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 21s22 seconds ago
    Six men and seven women now remain on the jury in the #TimBosma murder trial.

    Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 22s23 seconds ago
    There were 13 jurors. One wld have been cut. Now we have the 12 who will deliberate. @AM900CHML

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 31s32 seconds ago
    We're now left with 12 jurors. One juror would have been excused before deliberations began anyhow. #TimBosma #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 34s35 seconds ago
    An earlier female juror was released after her brother died. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 44s45 seconds ago
    Jurors are now doing a head count for the record. #Bosma

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 45s46 seconds ago
    And then there were 12. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    "...that juror will be discharged." One woman juror has left the courtroom. We are now down to 12 jurors for the deliberations. #Bosma
     
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    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 37s38 seconds ago
    Justice Andrew Goodman is beginning his charge, telling the jury he will instruct them on the law "so you may render a proper verdict"#Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 38s39 seconds ago
    "It's my duty to instruct you now as to the principles of the law applicable in this case," Goodman says, beginning his charge. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 47s48 seconds ago
    Justice Andrew Goodman is beginning his charge. Courtroom doors are locked. "How to relate the correct legal principles" to the facts.

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 54s55 seconds ago
    The jurors are polled. Justice Goodman now begins his c
    harge to them. #Bosma
     
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    I think the break between the charge from the judge will be helpful for the jury to reflect. What a big job.
     
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    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 6s6 seconds ago
    One of the most important duties of a Canadian citizen. You are "guardians of the legal rights of the community," he tells them. #Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 12s12 seconds ago
    He calls them the "guardians of the legal rights of the community." #TimBosma #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 25s25 seconds ago
    It's one of the most important duties a Canadian citizen can perform, Goodman tells the jury. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 29s29 seconds ago
    "You are engaged in one of the most important duties a Canadian citizen can be called upon to perform," says Goodman.

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 33s33 seconds ago
    He starts by thanking them for their attention. "I'm sure you will pay careful attention to what I have to say." #TimBosma #Bosma

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 37s37 seconds ago
    He tells them as jurors they have a direct and decisive voice in the administration of justice. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 50s50 seconds ago
    Goodman is thanking the jury for their cooperation, patience, and their careful attention to the evidence. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 59s59 seconds ago
    Thanks the jurors for their cooperation, patience and attention to the evidence.
     
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    Sending love and prayers, as always, to the Bosma Army. Justice is coming.
     
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    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 32s33 seconds ago
    "Emotions and sympathies for anyone" should not be part of deliberations. Must be based on evidence, the law, good reason, common sense.

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 36s37 seconds ago
    He says it's of "extreme importance" that they "erase from their minds" any notion of sympathy or partiality. #TimBosma #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 47s48 seconds ago
    They protect the safety and the security of the community, and they protect against unjust convictions. They have to let go of prejudices.

    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 48s49 seconds ago
    "Your responsibility as jurors is to protect people from unjust convictions.. .. You must deal with the evidence fully and impartially."

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 56s57 seconds ago
    "Must erase all prejudice, partiality and sympathy."

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
    Goodman tells them to erase all prejudice, partiality and sympathy from their minds. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    "Protect persons from unjust convictions" but also protect "safety and security" of the community.

    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
    "You are engaged in one of the most important duties a Canadian citizen can perform," Goodman tells jurors. #TimBosma
     
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    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 18s18 seconds ago
    Terminology: Millard and Smich called "the accused." "There is nothing sinister in this," says Goodman. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
    They can't be swayed by compassion or vindictiveness, Goodman tells the jury. #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    Judgment must be based on the evidence, law, common on sense, unaffected by "compassion or vindictiveness." #Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
    "You bear the sole responsibility of ensuring justice in this case is achieved." #TImBosma #Bosma

    Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
    Judge "- u r engaged in one of the most important duties a citizen can be called on" @AM900CHML
     
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    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 26s27 seconds ago
    He'll be referring to Tim #Bosma by his last name, or as the deceased.

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 39s40 seconds ago
    Goodman talks about terminology. Refers to Millard and Smich as the accused. Says this is standard. Nothing sinister about it. #Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 39s40 seconds ago
    Goodman says there is "nothing sinister" about calling Millard and Smich as "the accused." #TimBosma #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 45s46 seconds ago
    Dellen Millard and Mark Smich are called the accused, judge says. There is nothing sinister about the term. #Bosma
     
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    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 41s41 seconds ago
    He wants to tell the jury that so they know no disrespect is intended. #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 55s55 seconds ago
    Tim Bosma will be referred to as #Bosma or as "the deceased," says judge. Goodman will not he using honourifics such as "Mr." or "Ms."

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
    Tim Bosma will be referred to as the deceased, or by his last name. Justice won't be using honourifics. Too cumbersome in such a long charge
     
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    Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 8s9 seconds ago
    "Your judgement must be made on evidence, law and common sense." @AM900CHML

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 15s16 seconds ago
    The judge is outlining what he will explain in the different parts of his charge. #TimBosma

    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 23s24 seconds ago
    Goodman says his instructions to the jury have been organized into 11 parts. #TimBosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 49s50 seconds ago
    He says his instructions have been organized into 11 parts. Settle in -- this charge will be lengthy. #TimBosma #Bosma

    Alex Pierson &#8207;@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
    "Erase any prejudice, partiality and sympathy from what u have heard." @AM900CHML

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
    "No disrespect is intended." Only lawyers will be referred to as Mr. or Ms.
     
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    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 7s
    Goodman tells jury they will not permit themselves to guess. #TimBosma

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 7s
    "Deciding the facts is your job, not mine. You not I decide what happened in this case," he says. #Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 18s
    First the jury has to decide what the facts are in the case. There is no more evidence. They can come to common-sense conclusions. #Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 20s
    The jury's first job is to decide the facts in this case, and they are entitled to come to "common sense conclusions." #TimBosma #Bosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 28s
    "Your first duty is to decide what the facts are in this case." Jury is entitled to "come to common sense conclusions."

    molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 41s
    As Judge, he decides what evidence they hear, the procedure that follows. They decide the facts. #Bosma

    Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 57s
    "I am giving these instructions to help you make your decisions -- not telling you what decisions to make," he says. #TimBosma #Bosma

    Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 57s
    He says the instructions are meant to guide and, at times, limit their consideration of the evidence. "To help you make your decision"#Bosma

    Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 59s
    Judge says the instructions are to help jury make a decision, not tell them what decision to make. #TimBosma

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 60s
    Accused killer Mark Smich looking at Goodman. Co-accused Dellen Millard looking down at notes.

    Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 1m
    Many spectators here, but courtroom is not full. Goodman says he will discuss law, evidence, Crown and defence positions...
     
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