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And then we have this article dated yesterday. WTF?

Can it get even more confusing.

Madeleine McCann suspect 'died in 2009'


A suspect in Madeleine McCann case who may have sexually assaulted five British girls in the Algarve up to 10 years ago died in 2009, according to a source close to Portuguese investigators into the disappearance of the three year-old.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/20/madeleine-mcann-suspect-died-in-2009


So this is the guy that died in tractor accident?
 
And then we have this article dated yesterday. WTF?

Can it get even more confusing.

Madeleine McCann suspect 'died in 2009'


A suspect in Madeleine McCann case who may have sexually assaulted five British girls in the Algarve up to 10 years ago died in 2009, according to a source close to Portuguese investigators into the disappearance of the three year-old.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/20/madeleine-mcann-suspect-died-in-2009


So this is the guy that died in tractor accident?

Yes ??

Well not one of the descriptions mention the obvious !!

Euclides Monteiro ( aka Tractorman )

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Yes ??

Well not one of the descriptions mention the obvious !!

Euclides Monteiro ( aka Tractorman )

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I think he's just one of the suspects they're investigating. I'm not sure how they're going to investigate this guy. He's dead.

From the article

The description issued by Scotland Yard did not say the man they were seeking may have been of African origin, describing him the man as "having dark (as in tanned) skin".

Up until six months before the disappearance of Madeleine, Monteiro had been an employee at the Ocean Complex in Praia da Luz, the resort in which the McCann's stayed, and was a residentthere at the time of her disappearance, the source said.

"The inquiry remains open and so too does the investigation. We have not drawn any definitive conclusions as to whether or not Euclides is our man.

"It has come to light that there was a fifth case with striking similarities to the four cases made public on Wednesday and all follow a similar modus operandi, which leads us to believe that the same person perpetrated these five crimes and that he could also be responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

"This is the line of inquiry Portuguese police have been following since the reopening of the case, which is that which the Metropolitan police made public on Wednesday.

"Portuguese police are dealing with a case which is seven years old and, coupled with the fact that the line of inquiry being followed involves a deceased person, further complicates the investigation. These cases are unique not only to the Algarve, but Portugal as a whole.

"Euclides is someone who we believe could have been involved in these five crimes – it is only a possibility – that he could have been responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

:sigh:
 
MSM is confusing all the facts as usual, sigh
Best just to read the actual words of Scotland Yard and the PJ
 
:blushing:
This article says they're looking for a lone intruder.


Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood revealed earlier this week that the force are looking for a lone intruder who sexually abused five British girls during a series of break-ins in the Algarve, Portugal.

http://www.independent.ie/world-new...-madeleine-mccann-investigation-30114109.html

Dont know why they are looking for him he was found years ago by the Pj and arrested

And so the circus goes on
 
This article says they're looking for a lone intruder.


Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood revealed earlier this week that the force are looking for a lone intruder who sexually abused five British girls during a series of break-ins in the Algarve, Portugal.

http://www.independent.ie/world-new...-madeleine-mccann-investigation-30114109.html

A Lone Intruder between 2004-2010
Why are the media are dragging Monteiro back into this he died in 2009 ?

Seems he has a pretty good alibi !
 
Ok Monteiro IS NOT smellyman.

Smithman IS NOT smellyman.

Smellyman is UNKNOWN and like the others, needs to be identified and ruled out.

The PJ had already done this for Monteiro.

The question now becomes "why is this inaccurate carp being presented as if its news?" because none of it is new.

Theyre either playing with our heads, or playing with the PERP's head.
 
"Theyre either playing with our heads, or playing with the PERP's head."

It's also worth bearing in mind that, if by "they" you mean whoever's briefing the media, since all the briefings are anonymous, we have no way of knowing for sure who "they" are and what their exact relationship with the investigation is.
 
Has anyone mentioned Mr Amaral's interview on Portuguese TV last week ?

It seems a bit of a coincidence ??

A couple of interesting statement's from him (which is also unusual)

Particularly this :

" We have no doubts, and this was discussed even at the level of Portuguese justice, at the level of the Public Ministry, that there was an alteration at the English lab. The data was manipulated. The FSS, the British lab, which was already questioned over several situations, even concerning the IRA in Ireland, over bomb attacks, those traces, that way to find the DNA, to examine the DNA with low copy number, was called into question relating to traces found on a bomb in an Irish case. And that lab was called into question.”

???

Video here:

http://portocanal.sapo.pt/um_video/11onQvrULT3GzrYFv07K/

English Transcript here:

http://textusa.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/political-courage.html
 
Unfortunately from reading that interview it's clear that GA has misunderstood what the forensic report said:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

"There is no evidence to support the view that Madeline MCCann contributed DNA to the swab 3B.

A complex LCN DNA result which appeared to have originated from at least three people was obtained from cellular material recovered from the luggage compartment section 286C 2007 CRL10 (2) area 2. Within the DNA profile of Madeline McCann there are 20 DNA components represented by 19 peaks on a chart. At one of the areas of DNA we routinely examine Madeleine has inherited the same DNA component from both parents; this appears therefore as 1 peak rather than 2, hence 19 rather than 20. Of these 19 components 15 are present within the result from this item; there are 37 components in total. There are 37 components because there are at least 3 contributors; but there could be up to five contributors. In my opinion therefore this result is too complex for meaningful interpretation/inclusion.

Why - ...

Well lets look at the question that is being asked

"Is there DNA from Madeline on the swab "

It would be very simple to say "yes" simply because of the number of components within the result that are also in her reference sample.

What we need to consider, as scientists, is whether the match is genuine and legitimate; because Madeline has deposited DNA as a result of being in the car or whether Madeline merely appears to match the result by chance. The individual components in Madeline's profile are not unique to her, it is the specific combination of 19 components that makes her profile unique above all others. Elements of Madeline's profile are also present within the the profiles of many of the scientists here in Birmingham, myself included. it's important to stress that 50% of Madeline's profile will be shared with each parent. It is not possible in a mixture of more than two people, to determine or evaluate which specific DNA components pair with each other. Namely, we cannot separate the components out into 3 individual DNA profiles.

Therefore, we cannot answer the question: is the match genuine or is it a chance match."

The point he's making isn't that the sample could have come from 5 random people which just magically came together to form a Madeleine-like profile, but to illustrate that it's not the markers that are unique to an individual but the profile. The real problem here is that they can't exclude that the sample could come from a combination of family members who, as we know, had legitimate contact with the vehicle.

Further:

"What questions will we never be able to answer with LCN DNA profiling -

When was the DNA deposited -
How was the DNA deposited -
What body fluid(s) does the DIVA originate from -
Was a crime committed."
 
Does anyone know if the hair can be sent for testing without the root to determine if Madeleine died in the apartment ?

Wasn't something similar done for Caylee Anthony? I can't remember the details offhand and will have to research
 
Does anyone know if the hair can be sent for testing without the root to determine if Madeleine died in the apartment ?

Wasn't something similar done for Caylee Anthony? I can't remember the details offhand and will have to research

I found this.

Taphonomy of hair--a study of postmortem root banding.

Although it has been generally accepted within the forensic hair community that decompositional changes in the form of an identifiable banding pattern can occur in the root area of hairs after death, little detailed information with regard to this phenomenon is known (e.g., rates at which this occurs and conditions that cause this banding).

It looks like they would need the root of the hair. MOO.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23013230
 
Unfortunately from reading that interview it's clear that GA has misunderstood what the forensic report said:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_LOWE.htm

"There is no evidence to support the view that Madeline MCCann contributed DNA to the swab 3B.

A complex LCN DNA result which appeared to have originated from at least three people was obtained from cellular material recovered from the luggage compartment section 286C 2007 CRL10 (2) area 2. Within the DNA profile of Madeline McCann there are 20 DNA components represented by 19 peaks on a chart. At one of the areas of DNA we routinely examine Madeleine has inherited the same DNA component from both parents; this appears therefore as 1 peak rather than 2, hence 19 rather than 20. Of these 19 components 15 are present within the result from this item; there are 37 components in total. There are 37 components because there are at least 3 contributors; but there could be up to five contributors. In my opinion therefore this result is too complex for meaningful interpretation/inclusion.

Why - ...

Well lets look at the question that is being asked

"Is there DNA from Madeline on the swab "

It would be very simple to say "yes" simply because of the number of components within the result that are also in her reference sample.

What we need to consider, as scientists, is whether the match is genuine and legitimate; because Madeline has deposited DNA as a result of being in the car or whether Madeline merely appears to match the result by chance. The individual components in Madeline's profile are not unique to her, it is the specific combination of 19 components that makes her profile unique above all others. Elements of Madeline's profile are also present within the the profiles of many of the scientists here in Birmingham, myself included. it's important to stress that 50% of Madeline's profile will be shared with each parent. It is not possible in a mixture of more than two people, to determine or evaluate which specific DNA components pair with each other. Namely, we cannot separate the components out into 3 individual DNA profiles.

Therefore, we cannot answer the question: is the match genuine or is it a chance match."

The point he's making isn't that the sample could have come from 5 random people which just magically came together to form a Madeleine-like profile, but to illustrate that it's not the markers that are unique to an individual but the profile. The real problem here is that they can't exclude that the sample could come from a combination of family members who, as we know, had legitimate contact with the vehicle.

Further

"What questions will we never be able to answer with LCN DNA profiling -

When was the DNA deposited -
How was the DNA deposited -
What body fluid(s) does the DIVA originate from -
Was a crime committed."

No !

He say's;

"That human blood, the English lab even says, there is a report in the process, that says it’s the daughter of – the daughter of Gerald McCann, it’s a descendant of his. *Later on, they change the hypothesis"*

The LOWE Report you quoted is the one he is talking about *( as in later one )

E.T.A.
It was also reported on SKY news that they had 100% DNA match

McMinute: Martin Brunt 'Full DNA Match' in McCann's Hire Car - YouTube
 
I wonder why Kate didn't smell Smellyman when she entered the apartment?

Or Gerry - who said The Perp was Obviously Hiding Behind the Door While He Relieved Himself?

Instead of sitting admiring a sleeping child (smellyman is alleged to have only assaulted two children despite viewing 12) he instead murders her silently and carries away the corpse?

:scared:
 
British police look for two new suspects in Madeleine McCann case


British police officers investigating the 2007 disappearance of 3-year-old Madeleine McCann from a Portugal resort have reportedly uncovered new details about two bogus charity workers operating in the area around the time of the girl's disappearance.

The British Sunday Mirror paper reported that the two men, described as being in their mid-50s with heavy builds, were seen knocking on doors in the apartment building used by Madeleine's parents. Investigators have been told that the men claimed to be fundraisers for disabled children and handed out yellow double-sided calling cards showing a girl in a wheelchair on one side and a few lines of Portuguese and English on the other.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...or-two-new-suspects-in-madeleine-mccann-case/


:tantrum:
 
:eek:verreaction:

" Police hunting for Madeleine McCann have been given vital new clues about two bogus charity workers operating in the resort when the tot went missing.

The “significant development” came hours after a new appeal on Crimewatch last Wednesday."

WOW !!

D'ya think someone's tipped them off about the PJ Files !!

FFS 3 years - £7+ million ??

Gaily Cooper's Statement:

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GAIL_COOPER.htm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-missing-police-hunt-3273735
 
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