Bruce Jenner Becoming a Woman and more...

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  1. nrdsb4

    nrdsb4 Well-Known Member

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    Good point also. Before this happened, I read that Bruce has been obsessed with his looks and unhappy with his looks for many years. At the time, not knowing that he had gender identity issues, I found this puzzling, because he was incredibly good looking when he was young. Very sad.
     


  2. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

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    Oh, we've been discussing all kinds of issues on this thread--it's a good one:)
     
  3. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    WHO is saying the paparazzi were NOT chasing? TMZ? LOL

    I am not going to take tMZ's word on the subject just yet. I am sure they are concerned about the blowback if it was determined they were chasing him.

    I have seen it with my own eyes, dozens of times. Starbucks does not allow the paps to bring cameras into the building or the patio, but they wait in the lot in their cars. When Brittany Spears and her fiance leave, 6 to 7 cars follow in a caravan. Same with Bruce. He pulls out, and a bunch of cars follow close behind, every single time.

    So maybe 'chased' is not the right term. But shadowed or followed seems apt.

    And we KNOW the paparazzi were right there because of all the pictures right before the crash. How can TMZ say there were none around when they got pictures of the entire incident? LOL
     
  4. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

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    It's ok if you don't get it.
     
  5. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    From the 911 transcript at the below link, it sounds like a fire truck was there before the emergency calls even came in. He must have been right there when it happened. Like he happened upon it.

    The dispatcher even asks the caller if she is sure the fire dept is there.
    And then says I'm sending fire anyway.



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...involving-Bruce-Jenner-911-call-revealed.html


    Caller: Umm at least three. It could be worse. Fire department has just pulled up so... Something and a fire department truck

    Operator: And are you sure it's the fire department that's there?

    Caller: Uh it's a fire department truck, not like the engines, it's somebody in a truck.

    Operator: Okay, I'm going to get you the fire department anyway - stay on the line
     
  6. SStarr33

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    Thank you for sharing. Loved it!
     
  7. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    Can you answer my question. I have asked you multiple times.

    Why is it important WHO or that it was BJ that checked her pulse or helped her. There were many people on the scene. A fire fighter was there before the emergency calls started coming in.

    Please just tell me why it matters so much.
     
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    SStarr33 Inactive

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    Yeah, I saw the video last night. It was like a red pick up truck and it had FD on the side. There were motorcycle people milling around and trying to get in--the driver's side door could not be opened, but they went in the back door on that side.

    Driving me crazy that I can't find that video--I gotta go look for it again.
     
  9. jjenny

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    His car pushed the Lexus into oncoming traffic resulting in a fatality. So I don't understand what you mean by "there is no evidence he caused the fatality." Hummer that actually hit the Lexus isn't going to be at fault because Lexus came into oncoming traffic.
     
  10. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    Maybe she meant no evidence he was criminally negligent.

    I still think this is a comparative case.
    I think 3 of the 4 drivers will share fault in this.
    The only person I think shares no fault is the driver of the Hummer.

    JMO
     
  11. i.b.nora

    i.b.nora I am polka dot

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    Having read the RollingStone article you recommended yesterday, I would say TMZ has a huge vested interest in whether paparazzi might share the blame in some way. Of course they were there. Ahead of him, behind him, all around him.
     
  12. Nova

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    I agree. But the standards in Hollywood are ridiculous! A friend of mine who was the best looking girl in her high school class and who is an excellent and accomplished Broadway star and Disney animated "princess" could only get auditions as the "wise-cracking best friend" when she lived in LA, never a lead. (She eventually had a minor imperfection corrected--something I hadn't noticed in the 25 years we'd been friends at that point. But she remained a "character" type.)

    And then there's the fact you see yourself on billboards and every time you turn on the TV. I'm not thrilled with aspects of my own looks, but I just ignore them; I'm not confronted with my appearance every few minutes.
     
  13. Nova

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    Speaking of pressure in Hollywood, I think transitioning is always brave, but to do so when you are one of the most recognizable athletes in the world and a constant presence in front of E! and TMZ cameras is about the bravest thing I can imagine outside a battle field.
     
  14. SnoopyDawgDawg

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    I wonder if when she originally stopped, the traffic at the light WAS backed up; however, she became engrossed in texting and sat still after the light had changed and traffic was flowing right along. (I see this happen all the time).
     
  15. southsleuth

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    TMZ is a "sensational" celebrity site. Not necessarily the facts. It sells.
     
  16. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Law enforcement have said the paparazzi was there, but not chasing him.
    They have said they don't believe the paparazzi were doing anything unusual.
    Because Bruce is a celebrity he is used to the paparazzi.
    This is all in statements from LE. :twocents:
     
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    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    Yes, just as five paparazzi are ALWAYS following his car.
    But they weren't "chasing" him or threatening him.
    They were the paparazzi not the mob.
    As LE said, he is used to them following him, he is a celebrity. :twocents:
     
  19. Kimberlyd125

    Kimberlyd125 Softball is for everyone. Fast pitch is for athlet

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    If this is true, it changes everything.

    If this is true, it would mean 100% fault rests with BJ.

    No source names given. Just "sources". So I'll keep an open mind until I hear more from LE.

    http://m.tmz.com/#Articles/all

    BRUCE JENNER
    Car Crash Photos
    COULD CREATE PROBLEMS FOR JENNER
     
  20. jjenny

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    That new theory makes a lot more sense to me, given that Lexus appears to be in good condition at the moment of impact with Jenner's car.
    There doesn't appear to be any front damage, which I noticed right after looking at the photos.
    I would expect to see front damage if Lexus struck the Prius (and there is extensive damage to the rear of the Prius) before Jenner's car struck the Lexus.
     
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