GUILTY CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #12

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  1. LietKynes

    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice if there was some way that the parents could never be allowed to contact those kids.
    I still fear what things they could be telling them !
     
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  2. Doghairrules

    Doghairrules Well-Known Member

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    Dad sounds like the narcissist some of us thought he must be. I was surprised to be moved by mom’s statement. I think she was perhaps depressed and overwhelmed. But she knows and acknowledged that she hurt the children. Good for her!

    I am amazed by the progress of the adult children!!! I hope the little ones are doing as well.
     
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  3. Doghairrules

    Doghairrules Well-Known Member

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    I am very worried about the amount that Jane Doe #5 minimized the abuse. It just is not possible that they were given as much food as they needed and were all severely malnourished. So her statement doesn’t seem particularly rooted in reality. I hope all the kids continue to receive therapy so they can process what they’ve been through.
     
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  4. Doghairrules

    Doghairrules Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough. :wink:
     
  5. Doghairrules

    Doghairrules Well-Known Member

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    I have such mixed feelings about her, although I will officially defer to @gitana1. But I did see her trying to smile at her oldest son as he was speaking. I think at least some of what she said and felt was real.
     
  6. JudgeJudi

    JudgeJudi Well-Known Member

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    Emotional abuse is a form of psychological abuse that includes isolation. These children have suffered enormously at the hands of their “parents” and it is far too early to know the long term effects and how it will impact their lives.

    Sadly, this was the only life these children knew. While it's horrendous and beyond our comprehension how they were abused and mistreated, they had endured it all their lives and it was the norm for them. This is why I believe some of them have minimized and/or justified all that has happened.

    The following is from an interesting article on the subject.

    Psychological abuse is even harder on kids than we thought

    "It was only when researchers looked at kids who had endured both physical and sexual abuse that they saw similar odds of behavioral problems and psychological disorders as seen in the kids who’d been psychologically abused. (Psychological abuse can take myriad forms, but a few common forms are acts by caregivers that belittle, demean, bully, withhold affection from, exploit or isolate a child.)"

    So far it seems that the children are making good progress, but I found a few of the statements quite worrying.
     
  7. JudgeJudi

    JudgeJudi Well-Known Member

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    A 21 year old daughter asked the judge to give her parents a lighter sentence because “they believed everything they did was to protect us.” She expressed a desire to talk to them again.

    Her brother read our her statement.

    “I love both my parents so much. Although it may not have been the best way of raising us, I’m glad they did, because it made me the person I am today. I want the court to know that our parents loved each other and loved each of their children. I remember our mother sitting in her recliner and crying, saying she don’t know what to do. She didn’t want to use rope or chain, but she was afraid her children were taking in too much sugar and caffeine.”

    The statement said that the parents continued buying soda because “father needed it for work”.

    “I pray often for them,” the daughter wrote.

    The couple’s eldest daughter walked into the room in tears, holding hands with a prosecutor.

    She said, “Life may have been bad, but it made me strong. I fought to become the person that I am. I saw my dad change my mum. They almost changed me, but I realised what was happening. I’m a fighter. I’m strong and I’m shooting through life like a rocket.”

    The Turpins wiped away tears before their eldest son then addressed the court about his ordeal. The 26-year-old man (“John Doe 2”), said he couldn’t “describe in words what we went through growing up. Sometimes I still have nightmares of things that happened such as my siblings being chained up or getting beaten,” he said as his voice cracked. “But that is the past and this is now. I love my parents and have forgiven them.”

    According to LT’s lawyer, 10 of the children have 10-year restraining orders in place. Two have 5-year restraining orders and one had the restraining order dropped.

    The orders prevented the Turpins from having contact with the children — whether in person, by mail, phone, social media or through third parties.

    House of horrors daughter defends parents: ‘Mother didn’t want to use rope and chain’
     
  8. JudgeJudi

    JudgeJudi Well-Known Member

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    "I'm sorry for everything I've done to hurt my children," Louise Turpin said, adding she believes God has a special plan for each of them. "I love them more than they could ever imagine." Really!!! Jordan said in the 911 call, “I don’t know much about my mother. She doesn’t like us. She doesn’t spend time with us ever”.

    Even in my wildest dreams I cannot imagine that she loves them or ever did.

    "I thank God for all of my children," David Turpin's statement read, adding that he is sorry "if I've done anything to cause them harm." If ?????? This man is a monster and has shown no remorse. Tears? Yep, sure … but only for himself.

    God must have heard some prayers ... "Deliver us from evil".

    Turpin case: Parents sentenced to 25 years to life in prison after their children testify about years of torture - CNN
     
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  9. JudgeJudi

    JudgeJudi Well-Known Member

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    No normal person would even think of doing what she's done. To me, acknowledging it now means nothing. Does she expect anyone to believe that she hasn't had one single moment for self-reflection in over 30 years.

    Giving birth doesn't make you a mother any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.
     
  10. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    Under California's Elderly Parole Program, all inmates older than 60 who have served 25 years — except those on death row, sentenced to life without the possibility of parole or convicted of murdering a police officer — are eligible for parole consideration.

    The Turpins were sentenced to 25 years-to-life in prison at Friday's sentencing. Louise is now 50 and David is 57. They could be eligible to appear before a parole board in 2044, when he is 82 and she is 75.

    Parole reform gives older Californians, including David and Louise Turpin, hope for early release

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    Very disappointed.

    They should never be released.
     
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  11. GoBuckeyes

    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    Did you take that to mean brainwashing or some variation thereof?
     
  12. GoBuckeyes

    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone else find peculiar the 10-year gap between sibs 12 and 13? (Given how frequent and regular were the intervals between the other births?
     
  13. GoBuckeyes

    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    It's probable that they may feel some measure of protectiveness over their parents still. When abuse happens in devoutly religious homes, the victims frequently will desire to honor a tenant of most faiths, forgiveness. The anger over what was taken from them may not have set in yet. Or, I'm hopeful this is the case, they each have been able to find true strength in their faith and in drawing support from each other and have been able to forgive their torturers.
     
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    claudianunes Well-Known Member

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    She was having some trouble getting pregnant for a while, she was even going to a fertility clinic and then she had the youngest baby.
     
  15. SandyQLS

    SandyQLS may your life be filled with armadillos

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    Very nice article about the comfort K-9.
    Corona Police K-9 Who’s Been Comforting Turpin Children Since Their Rescue Was by Their Side During Parents’ Sentencing

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    "...As the children of David and Louise Turpin spoke about taking their life back and the nightmares they still have, a yellow Labrador sat quietly next to them.

    The dog, Raider, has been meeting with the siblings ever since their parents were arrested early last year and their lives were turned upside-down.

    ...Roulston said one of the Turpin children asked authorities to allow Raider to be with them Friday during their parents’ sentencing hearing at the Riverside County Superior Court. They took turns petting him and he sat still by their side when two of them offered testimony about how they suffered at the hands of their parents. ..."
     
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  16. forthelost

    forthelost I hear the angels call my name and I am Winterborn

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    They were being starved, and she knew that, so I doubt this is the case. Some sugar would have at least given them calories.
     
  17. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    I am just glad that the Mother received an equal prison sentence to the Father. I can't stand the "Hedda Nussbaum Defense" ie..dependent personality disorder! Nope, you did it, you participated, you never stopped the abuse.

    As for the children, who knows how their story will end up? Some will be okay, some will probably never recover. I think that there is a lot more that occurred that was not released to the public.
     
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  18. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Agreed. But to try to be positive, they're much farther along than maybe expected at this stage.

    I think my expectations are probably unrealistic.

    I mean these kids were super damaged. And like you said this is all they've known.

    Emotionally they're probably doing super well considering.

    If they've come this far along so soon I've got to expect that eventually they will understand much more about what their parents did to them and how bad it was.
     
  19. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I took it to mean turn her into a monster.

    That's a pretty astute observation with subtle and sensitive nuance, from someone in her postition. They seem very smart.
     
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  20. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    No. She was at the end of her reproductive capabilities. She also had fertility assistance from what we've seen of comments she's made in the past. So I think it wasn't easy for her to get pregnant with the last.
     

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