CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #6

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  1. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Technically, kidnapping is taking someone from Point A to Point B, usually by force. The parents didn't capture or seize the children but, rather, prohibited them from leaving the location from which they already resided. This would be false imprisonment or holding them against their will. They have to use the charges that are most fitting to the situation or else there won't be any chance of getting a conviction.
     


  2. KaaBoom

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    An assisted living facility is a nursing home.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nursing_home_care_in_the_United_Kingdom
     
  3. sar2them1984

    sar2them1984 Well-Known Member

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    I think, no matter what arrangements are put into place it is in the best ibterests of the authorities to sustain and nurture that relationship which the siblings have. After all they've lost their parents now (i use that term VERY loosely but a parent is a parent and if their behaviours are all you've known I'm pretty sure you would still love and miss them, in the early days at least) and i can't see much progress being made if all ties between the rest of their family ceased too. I'm sure authorities would have thought if this.

    On a completely different subject...family were reported to stay up all night and go to bed 4-5am. Shero escaped some time after that which leads me to believe rest of the house were in bed/asleep AND also that not all the children were chained up at the same time. I wonder what the "criteria" was that they used to determine who was and wasn't secured. If LT/DT felt there was a risk of any of them escaping they would have all been secured but it seems not -LE stated 3 at the time of the rescue. So why just 3?

    Idk, im kind of rambling. I just don't get the logic

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  4. sar2them1984

    sar2them1984 Well-Known Member

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    Halfway house? Thats for ex offenders/newly released from prison.

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  5. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    [FONT=&amp]"Nursing homes provide care for individuals who require a higher degree, or a greater frequency, of medical attention than those in assisted living."

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    https://www.payingforseniorcare.com/assisted-living-vs-nursing-homes.html
     
  6. KaaBoom

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    Sorry, I deleted that part. You are right.
     
  7. Elley Mae

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    I worked at nursing/assisted living facility. The assisted living wing was nice. Some single ppl and married couples. Some rooms were like small apartments with kitchens. There was also a buffet in the open area that served three meals for those that didn’t/couldn’t cook.
    If they get into one that was similar to the one i worked at they will feel like they have their own place with friends and siblings close by, and their needs and wants will most likely be met.
     
  8. Lilibet

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    Assisted living residents would argue that point with you. :) AL facilities are not the same as a nursing home. AL residents receive assistance with &#8220;activities of daily living&#8221; (ADLs) like med management (giving meds), shower set-up or actually assisting with showers, dressing, transfer, escort to meals and much more...all decided as part of a care plan and paid for according to level of help needed.

    People who need more medical care than can legally be provided in assisted living will transfer to nursing homes. I have friends in both settings. One friend in AL will need memory care eventually, but can manage without too much assistance now, just med management. When he broke his leg in a fall, he spent two months in a nursing home before returning to AL. Our friend who lives in the nursing home was in AL, but he has MS and finally needed more help than AL is equipped to give.
     
  9. sar2them1984

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    It is difficult with all the different terminology. Over her for instance we have nursing homes, residential homes, warden facilitated living, sheltered accommodation, supported living to name but a few.

    Where they go hopefully there will be a good balamce and an holistic approach taken to ensure that they learn the necessary skills to become adults but that their spiritual, emotional and medical needs are met

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  10. enelram

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    In some areas, the police or sheriff patrol cars have on the sides of cars somethink like, Need Help? Call 911 in
    HUGE letters. Could have seen this in Las Vegas or on their trips.
     
  11. sar2them1984

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    Again, im UK based so may be different...

    I've always got deactivated phoned knocking around my house as i upgrade yearly due to work. I've had a couple of close calls when one of my girls has gotten hold of one of them as when they are turned on (on certain phones) it comes up with "emergency calls only" and all you have to do is press the phone sign to ring emergency services - the number doesn't have to be inputted

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    I think the term "Nursing Home" seems to an obsolete word. A couple of Nursing Homes that my mother worked at many years ago, one is now called a Living Center, and the other a Healthcare Center. Evolution: Old People's Home / Old Folks Home > Nursing Home > Whatever they call them now. It's getting confusing.
     
  13. sar2them1984

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    Social care is ever evolving and hence why so many different terminologies for very similar services

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  14. sar2them1984

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    O/t i currently manage a home care company within the UK which was born in the USA. We are the only company to call our staff CAREGivers as opposed to carers which is the norm. Confuses the hell out of people!!

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    That sounds very convenient. I should try to charge up a couple of my old mobile phones and see what they do.
     
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    Through most of her career my mother's job title was Nurse's Aid. Sometime in the 1980s they changed it to Patient Caregiver.
     
  17. rpgman

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    If they were planning on moving within days, who all were going to drive the 4 vehicles? Were they going to just leave one or two? Were they going to have a couple shipped to where they were going? Just curious....plus, wasn't one of the older children seen driving by a neighbor?
     
  18. her

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    Disability qualifiers have nothing to do with if you worked or not,
    they will all get Medicaid and use up all funds available to them then ssi.
    Eta not ssdi but ssi
     
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    In the past, they just left them behind.
     
  20. rpgman

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    True I remember that, but these 3 cars plus the van seem to be in good condition. It was said that the truck that was left behind in TX was filled with trash.
     
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