CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #8

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  1. SandyQLS

    SandyQLS Well-Known Member

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    Thank you posting this case with parallels. Teen girl weighed only 85 pounds, died of cardiac arrest. The mother was convicted on the murder and also 3 counts of kidnapping for locking up her 5 children and not feeding them or letting them use a bathroom. Defense tried the mental illness route, it failed.
     


  2. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    There's been several pictures of the children showing red rings around their wrists. There's one of the oldest daughter and you can easily see that both her wrists have red circles around them. In a still from the wedding vows renewal video, one of the boys has his arms raised and you can see the red marks on his wrists.

    I suspect that when it comes to the trial, the prosecution will be showing pictures of marks or scars the children have from years of abuse.
     
  3. YED

    YED New Member

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    Yes, my British husband said the same thing the first summer he lived here. :drumroll: I don't know for sure but suspect there are none in England as the time when bugs are most out is also the time when it is raining? I'd love to know. I can say some older screens are heavy mesh while newer ones are almost a cheesecloth type light fabric. Newer ones can be cut with a fingernail if you are not careful (though usually, that's if you are trying to repair one still in the window)

    YED
     
  4. aThousandYearsWide

    aThousandYearsWide Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or does this the family have a creepy cult dynamic? Even in the pictures where the children appeared healthy there is something eerie. And the having to ask the mother to even have a friend...Total control. And the adult children still living at home...One is almost 30. Were they not allowed to leave? Did any of them try/want/were even allowed to get a job? And the dad being accused of a lewd act...I can't even imagine what that might be...Disgusted...With 10 of hos children being female...I can't think any further!

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  5. YED

    YED New Member

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    Canada you can have ants, midges, flies (several varieties) mosquitos, bees, wasps, moths, beetles and other things I'd rather not think about. If it can crawl or fly it can get into a window here, and the populations of them must be larger too.
    Luckily in January, it's too cold for them to live.
    YED
     
  6. ilovepierre

    ilovepierre One day, the lost will be found

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    I have never used the bathroom at Disney, so I can't answer that.
    But for some reason, I seem to recall the ART (Anaheim Resort Transit) buses having ads on their buses that say something about human trafficking and a number to call.
    I could be wrong, though and it's possible I saw the ads on another bus somewhere else.
     
  7. wenwe4

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    Interesting that they taught the children how to potty train, walk, talk and write (based on info gleaned from Elvis wedding video and reports), yet the parents somehow never want to allow them to differentiate into individuals after about ages 7 - 11 ish. I know the eldest son was allowed to go to college and the older kids attended public school until about 7 - 11ish. They were prepared to feed, house, pay for and collect 13 + children forever? Never allowing any of their own children to date and marry like they fought so hard to do?

    I remember LT's sister alleging they were molested by a family member and witnessing their mother being raped and beaten. I wonder at what ages LT and her sister were when these traumatic events occurred. possibly ages 7 - 11?

    DT was 24 and she 16 when they married. They won't let their 16 or 24 year old kids watch tv - let alone meet a boy or a girl outside of the home. Such incongruence.
     
  8. YED

    YED New Member

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    Re: Alarm:
    My ex was an alarm installer. You know how they dial the alarm company (usually) when they are set off? Some of the more sophisticated may have a three-tier system for phoning before calling 911. IE you and spouse's work/cell phone and if no answer then police. If they are not monitored they will still be inside the house, hardwired in most cases. Still also hooked up to a cellphone or phone line unless you bother to take that apart as well.

    They can also be set, with a little software rigging, to dial any number you want them to. Therefore, you could have your alarm system call your cell phone. Depending on the system, you can listen in after the alarm calls you. It could indeed serve as a silent alarm.

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  9. flourish

    flourish Now With 30% More Emo

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    I grew up in a religion that fasts once a month for 24 hours and donates the money they would have spent on food to the church food bank (in theory and I don't think it's "official doctrine" even though they sunday's main like.. sermon type time is actually called "fast and testimony meeting" so idk). Point is I quickly learned to claim and fake symptoms of low blood sugar so my dad would give up on me doing it because Mom would back me. I thought that was nearly torture. I'm feeling pretty darn grateful for my parents right now.
     
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    Those houses are so close together. I wonder how their next door neighbors are feeling right now.

    The houses in my neighborhood are about the same distance apart. Our house is a tri-level like the one on the right in the picture. I know waaaay too much about my next door neighbors (and their 5 kids) who live in a ranch much like the house of horrors. I mean we know what our neighbors are cooking for dinner.

    How could you not SMELL it?

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    This article states the neighbor of the old home where they moved into a trailer on the property was because they trashed the home leaving it waist high with dirty diapers, deceased dog and cat. Is this the same person who's family member said there were 2 Chihuahua's left who were eating dirty diapers because they were so hungry? Does this mean there were 4 animals left in the old home to die and they just merrily move to a new city?

    http://people.com/crime/house-of-horrors-turpin-case-unanswered-questions/
     
  12. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Just a thought re Stockholm Syndrome , the Ts are these kids bio parents. That's different than Elizabeth's case. The girl who stayed with us, had been abused from age 4 - 12 or so, but still, now in her 20s, had conflicting emotions, and missed both her parents, in an odd way, at times.

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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I am behind again. Grandparent stuffs. [emoji4] I think the screens are likely like ours. There's a groove, around the frame, and you cut enough screen to lie over the groove. Then you take long strips of rubber, and use a device that looks a bit like a pizza cutter, to roll the rubber, over the screen, and into the groove. You then cut away the excess. This screen is sturdy but over time will age and tear away from the vertical side. We had a sparrow fly into ours and tear it. She could have used her fist or an object to break it free, if it was older screen.


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  14. Zelda1010

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    I agree Mars might be the only place this might not be covered, but anything is possible! But seriously, I don't know how far away they'd move something. And I know CA is a huge state. But somewhere that is suffering from their own horrific local crime with deep community impact might not be following this to the extent some of us are (Blaze Bernstein comes to mind, I hope that isn't disrespectful).

    Also, respectfully, just because there is enough evidence to convict doesn't always equal a guilty plea. I don't understand the when and why but could they take an Alford Plea or plead "no contest" to admit there is enough evidence to convict but not admit guilt. Lawyer thoughts?
     
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    It just might be that LT wants to go to trial for the notoriety. She's famous, don't ya know? She just might take the stand too!
     
  16. mtnlites

    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    My husband is British (Shropshire) and I lived in Wales while I got my MA. We had screens on our dorm rooms in Wales and he grew up with screens on his windows in Wellington. I guess it's just like it is here-some places have them and some don't.
     
  17. Jilllian

    Jilllian Verified Insider - Jennifer Ramsaran Case

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    Do they have Lincoln hearings in CA? In New York we use them for custody cases (not sure about criminal cases), where only the child, child's lawyer, court reporter and judge are present so that's it's not so scary/intimidating for the child.
     
  18. Jilllian

    Jilllian Verified Insider - Jennifer Ramsaran Case

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    As a foster mom, I've seen almost every child I've ever had in my home have a fierce loyalty toward their birth parent(s), regardless of the atrocities they perpetrated against the kids - starvation, locked in dark closets, sexually abused, passed around to friends and family members, locked outside in winter storms, etc.

    I have a three-year-old I've had for two years, taken away from her birth parents for many of the above reasons. She still has weekly visits with her birth parents, though they only show up about 50% of the time. Though she views me as her "mama," she would go back to her birth mom in a second if given the chance.

    I hope the Turpin kids feel much differently -- all of them

    It's so sad.
     
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    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    The screens are not older screens. The house is only a few years old.
     
  20. vlpate

    vlpate Sleuther with a porpoise

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    Those are the photos I have been looking at..I see nothing. Would you have a link to the stills you are referring to, thanks!
     
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