CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #9

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  1. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    JMO
    You mentioned in a recent post that
    "....just trying to predict how the defense might scrape together a case."

    But yet you didnt say that at all in the above post. And since we are a victim friendly place its no wonder when people read posts like that, it comes across as being sympathetic to the abusers and trying to find ways to justify what the parents did.

    I actually enjoy discussing defense strategies and it may help to preface the intentions of a post like above if that is the real reason for it.

    People can post however they want and just trying to help explain why some of the reactions are what they are.
     


  2. kkdj

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    That's what I saw too. That's why I said it looked like a threat to me. But I thought darts, BB gun, knives, potatoes, urine, etc. But I did see it as a target that represented a threat. Like, they were a target.
     
  3. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    I agree.

    In addition to just plain healing reasons, one of the main reasons that no relative should be allowed to get near the children at this time is because of the upcoming trial. They would either intentionally or not intentionally coerce the children into not saying anything bad about the parents during the trial testimony. That is of course if any of them are even called to testify.

    I am so glad LE got the restraining order and I really hope they do a good job protecting the children from influences from extended family.

    Maybe years from now after the trial and they have begun healing then maybe at the childs own choosing they would want to talk to some of them but before this trial and before their full healing I think it would be a terrible move.
     
  4. jjenny

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    I am not saying he wasn't. I am saying it doesn't look like he was targeted more than other children.
     
  5. ILikeToBendPages

    ILikeToBendPages Well-Known Member

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    I know the names of number one to number seven and number thirteen,and I think I have an idea of number eights name. You do want to put a name with a face..

    The wedding videos that had the children participating I can't find online now. IIRC there was one poster that said they had downloaded it but I don't remember who. It was interesting to watch them.
     
  6. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    One long one is still available.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tb4ZBbvcrc
     
  7. Bill Carson

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  9. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    From the above link:

    "California torture family: Will Turpin children be allowed to live together?
    THE TURPIN children have already been through horrific abuse including starvation at their hands of their parents. But now the family are due to be split up when the California child torture case is concluded."
     
  10. margarita25

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    "The siblings have been treated in a medical facility for their release, where they have also undergone DNA testing to ensure they are all related and not kidnapping victims.

    But now they could be split up, after the six children were told they will be divided between two foster homes.

    The seven adults, who have developmental issues and are unable to look after themselves, will be sent to an assisted living facility.

    The younger children, aged between two and 17 years old, pleaded with authorities to stay as a family - and police have recorded the siblings have a particularly special bond due to their imprisonment."

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-torture-case-children-live-together-split-up
     
  11. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I'm with you, Seattle, as to the aunts/family. Not impressed.
     
  12. margarita25

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    "Experts say the siblings would likely be left with permanent physical and emotional damage, such as anxiety and depression, as well as issues around food.

    "When the brain is starved of proteins and other building blocks, brain development is going to be impacted," Dr. Richard Pan, a paediatrician who is a Democratic state senator from the Sacramento area, said."

    Snip

    "The younger children could begin growing again once their nutrition improves but may never reach their full heights.

    Those who lost IQ might recover some of their intellect but not all of it, Dr Dean Blumberg, associate professor of paediatrics at the University of California said."

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-torture-case-children-live-together-split-up
     
  13. Lulu_la_Nantaise

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    ... being read in a loop the posts in this forum and suddenly understanding how people find them abhorrent and repulsive would be fine to begin with.
     
  14. Lulu_la_Nantaise

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    <modsnip> If someone makes fun of a person who tries to address an injustice, this someone is part of the injustice.
     
  15. KaaBoom

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    I believe the decision has already been made to send them to two foster homes. More than likely that was the best option. It's not uncommon for two or three brothers or sisters to be split up and sent to different foster homes. I think it would be very unlikely to find a foster home that could accommodate six children.

    Children rescued in California captivity case to be split up in foster care - CBS News
     
  16. AlayneStone

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    As long as the kids are allowed to see and talk to each other often, so they can still bond, splitting them up is probably the best of a set of bad options. Very few people are beating down the doors to foster/adopt six special-needs children all at once. And the "mega-families" that do adopt large broods are, to put it kindly, not always the optimal environment for troubled children (most are rigidly religious and disciplinarian, which these kids do NOT need). The family is not suitable, IMO, and should not get these kids - they turned a blind eye to the abuse, among other things.

    I'm sure Amy Duggar means well, but these kids are going to need therapeutic foster homes, not just kind people who think "I'll take them home and love on them and feed them and pray over them and that will make them into healthy normal kids!" The Turpin survivors need more than that. I am praying and hoping that they - adults and kids alike - get everything they need to help them heal and be the best people they can be.
     
  17. Zelda1010

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    Oh yes, I know unblurred pictures and names are not allowed here. I know people can search. I know there are links all over.

    My skills aren't up to par, but here is the earliest picture I've found. We know the oldest has already been removed from public school here, but look at the hairbands and ponytail holders. They are still individuals and pretty clearly various ages from young adult to small child.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tur...#imgdii=w2APzuVje1BTnM:&imgrc=n46Or3g3udnRzM:

    Since I can't seem to add an actual picture to my post, I won't continue my thoughts on pics as they age. This picture shows me a fairly normal family still, even though I know there had to already be things that were not right at the point this picture must've been taken.

    I invite anyone to compare this to the identification picture on the media thread or the heartbreaking couch picture and know that all of the kids aged 10 years during that timeframe.


    ETA:. Sorry, I lied, here is one more for now. This pic with Mickey. The eldest girl is in the back on the left, but her two younger sisters, on the other side of Mickey are the same height or taller now. The littlest still have bangs and pigtails.
    https://goo.gl/images/7BJtb9
     
  18. cady

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    WOW. I cannot suffer pathological liars. They have no capacity to be a "friend" to anyone, because they cannot be trusted. They do not know what friendship is. Somehow, they get by, but there are some seriously DANGEROUS pathological liars out there.......and they reproduce. JMO
     
  19. Stunned

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  20. Zelda1010

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    imagev164f28c8d75e32a62c0c7a2c0ec5adfd7-juk5su2ayvkk3c10mp2_ct1024x768.jpg

    I did it! I think. I can't edit it, but I found a good blurred photo that still shows some features.

    This picture...it must be 10 years old. They look like a fairly normal family, even though we think things were already "off" at the very least in this household.

    I can't do it now, but I'll see if I can post some of the Disney side by side in what I believe to be chronological order. I don't think we'll "find" any missing kids or anything, but it is a striking visual to see the kids side by side over time.

    Or if someone else understands where I'm coming from and thinks it is a good idea...please do.

    Or if you all tell me this is a terrible idea that won't add to the understanding and only serve to derail the thread, I'll leave it alone.
     
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