CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #2

Discussion in 'Rampage Killings and Terrorist Attacks' started by bessie, Dec 3, 2015.

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  1. Gypsy Road

    Gypsy Road Well-Known Member

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    Well...we have seen her bloody body sprawled out facedown on the pavement, stripped of her combat clothing, drawers appearing to be soiled.... Just saying.
     


  2. AmyPond

    AmyPond Well-Known Member

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    Were these two killers refugees? I thought he was born here. And she came over on a fiance visa or something like that. So I'm not sure what refugees have to do with this specific case. Especially since the screening for refugees is probably much more rigorous than whatever Malik had for her visa.

    Interesting. Why didn't they cuff her body too then? (Or maybe they did after the photo I saw was taken.)
     
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    Thank your son for me! Thank him for serving and keeping us safe.
    From a proud Army Brat!!
     
  4. Wolf Dreamer

    Wolf Dreamer Well-Known Member

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    what makes me sad is to see their first instinct is to gawp out the window and video dead/dying people instead of finding somewhere safe, and seeming so detached from what's happening.
     
  5. MBK

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    Fantastic post. However, from my understanding, it wasn't a Christmas party (or holiday party for the PC), it was a day-long required meeting with speeches and continuing education. And since Syed had been working for the agency a while, he had already been to a few of these, most likely (at the same place? I'd like to know). He knew the number of people who would be there, etc.
     
  6. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae Well-Known Member

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    You are not alone. Please thank you son for his service.
     
  7. janiceg

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    IIRC the police were at their house four hours after the shooting. What were the Farooks doing during that four hour period?

    Also, perhaps Farook left his jacket on the chair hoping that investigators would believe he had been shot in the carnage. That and the fact that they rented a car (obviously they had a car that they owned) indicates that they wanted to elude detection. The rental car plates would not be traced by the police for days and the jacket would lead people to believe that he was one of the unidentified bodies or one of the wounded

    What happened to the wounded? Are they still in the hospital?

    This whole thing is some sort of terrorist act; like the Boston marathon bombers. Beyond sad that this is in our beloved country.

    And, so much for vetting the 10,000 Syrian refugees; the wife was "vetted" and look how this turned out.

    They should ban Americans from going to the ME; Saudi Arabia etc., unless they have a vetted and approved reason to be there.
    To me, going to SA is suspicious in and of itself. Who goes to "visit" these god-forsaken countries where they stone women?
     
  8. steelman

    steelman Former Member

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    Boy.......it sure got quiet from all the folks claiming this was nothing more than workplace violence and poo-poo'ing the very idea it could be related to ISIS.

    That's nothing more than willful denial of the obvious.
     
  9. ninij9

    ninij9 Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully he wasn't dead yet. He may have had to lay there watching his lifeblood leak away on infidel soil...

    Sorry I hate him.

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  10. FindHG

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    Clear short comings in their followup after a what seems like planned and precise executions, to start with. They were reported to have started erasing their digital trail recently, could that be real or more distraction? If they rushed into action, why? What caused them to do this now?

    Agreed MBK, Foxfire post rocks.
     
  11. janiceg

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    Brilliant observation. Maybe that's why they went "home" after the attack; they were waiting to launch a second attack? Why wouldn't they flee and leave the country? IIRC they were found at home or close to it 4 hours after the attack.
     
  12. JLSChook

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  13. Wolf Dreamer

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    They're martyrs who have achieved the ultimate. ISIS regularly post pictures of their dead martyrs "smiling".

    That said, it might have an impact on the people that are being groomed to carry out attacks if they saw what actually happens.
     
  14. JLSChook

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    I believe they were instructed to shelter in place. However, yes, this is part of the sadness, they are desensitized to violence which is my main point.

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  16. cujenn81

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    Agreed!

    I saw a Twitter post that said something along the lines of...

    "France bombed ISIS in retaliation of their attack on Paris faster than media heads could even begin to opine about how they might respond."
     
  17. Gypsy Road

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    LOL @ the landlord letting the media in the house!
     
  19. Foxfire

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    Depends on which news channel you watch, MBK. I'm pretty sure there was a Christmas Tree in the room. Imo, he likely went there to recon the building and conference room to check if there was additional security such as a security guard or off duty police officer, etc. Think of them as soldiers on a perpetual mission.. jmo
     
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    CAIR Director on CNN: U.S. ‘Partly Responsible’ For Islamic Terrorism: The L.A. Director for the Council on American-Islamic Relation...

    Sorry, no link...It's live TV. :facepalm:
     
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