CA - 14 killed in San Bernardino mass shooting, 2 Dec 2015 #5

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  1. Mindmatters

    Mindmatters New Member

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    "Neighbor of San Bernardino Attackers Faces Terrorism Charges" http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/san-bernardino-enrique-marquez-charges-justice-department.html



    Criminal Complaint for Enrique Marquez http://documents.latimes.com/criminal-complaint-enrique-marquez/


    excerpt: Enrique Marquez "...arrested Dec. 17 and charged with conspiring to give material support to a terrorist plot..."



    "Marquez and Farook plotted campus and freeway attacks, prosecutors allege" http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-marquez-20151217-story.html



    "San Bernardino Shooter's Neighbor Arrested On Terror Charges, Allegedly Planned Earlier Attacks" http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-san-bernardino-shooter-arrested/story?id=35817064




    "Pal of San Bernardino terrorists charged on multiple counts" http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/17/pal-san-bernardino-terrorists-arrested-on-federal-charges.html
     
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  3. Mindmatters

    Mindmatters New Member

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    "Criminal complaint illuminates San Bernardino gunman's ties to Islamic militarism" http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-farook-20151218-story.html

     
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    Mindmatters New Member

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    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    RSBM

    Seems pretty easy to claim innocence after the fact. MOO

    Terrible that the female terrorist actually posted pro-jihad messages on social media and was still able to get a spouse visa:
    www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/us/san-bernardino-shooting/
    (CNN)Tashfeen Malik advocated jihad in messages on social media, but her comments were made under a pseudonym and with strict privacy settings that did not allow people outside a small group of friends to see them, U.S. law enforcement officials told CNN on Monday.
    Is it possible a seasoned hacker could have been able to access her sm accounts ?
    :moo:
     
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    CarmelEyesD Well-Known Member

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  8. Mindmatters

    Mindmatters New Member

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    Thanks for the post CarmelEyesD.

    Nice that the common sense practice of "see something say something" is happening in KC, Missouri--Way to be "Show-Me state" peeps!!!

    Hopefully after what happened in SB with the silenced neighbors of Farook and Malik, that see something say something becomes the norm rather than the exception. And may this practice spread like wildfire across the nation.
     
  9. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Dec 19 2015, 8:03 am ET

    Obama Meets With Families of San Bernardino Attack Victims

    by NBC News

    President Barack Obama opened his Christmas vacation on a somber note: meeting with families of the 14 people who were killed in the San Bernardino shootings.

    Obama stopped in California en route to Hawaii on Friday for his annual holiday getaway...

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sa...amilies-san-bernardino-attack-victims-n483021
     
  10. Sonya610

    Sonya610 Former Member

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    This guy's defense attorney should claim mental impairment due to low iq.

    Seriously? He admitted to a straw purchase and THEN said the shooter used the guns he sold?

    How on earth would he have known that his weapons were used? Because he discussed it with Farook?
     
  11. Archangel7

    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    During the mobile shootout with the husband/wife there was a third person "captured" some distance away from the final shooting scene (SUV). He was reportedly cutting thru yards and climbing fences.

    Authorities also reported that they had a "UC" almost immediately, about the same time the BEARCATS moved into position at the stopped SUV.
    I suspect the radio code the police used was the closest they had to describe an insider, etc. when they radioed in, in reference to the "UC."

    You could possibly draw conclusions from those events.
     
  12. Sonya610

    Sonya610 Former Member

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    What does UC stand for?

    That person couldn't have been Enrique, surely they didn't let him go (did they??).

    If there was a third shooter I suspect it would be the guy that cased the office building with Farook the week before (allegedly, due to the scanner reports).
     
  13. Bravo

    Bravo Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was reported days after that the 3rd guy was just a runner who was wanted on a warrant for something unrelated? I believe it was reported he ran due to all the LE activity. I'll see if I can find it.
     
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    Bravo Well-Known Member

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    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    UC= UnderCover

    There was a lot occurring at that time as was indicated by the immense radio traffic. At one point the trunked repeater timed out and it was several seconds before the radio system came back in use.

    Per radio traffic, one person was detained and there was a question about relevance to a long gun(a .22 if I remember correctly) that was found in a yard, possibly from activity the night before.

    I heard the actual radio traffic when someone was asked about the 3rd suspect and the person answered and stated the detainee was a (code for UC) and was transported to an agency to be turned over to another named agency.

    I also remember a transmission questioning a third person in the SUV and heard it stated there were only 2 suspects.

    I do know from media reports that they report Marquez arriving at a hospital.
    The radio transmissions that day don't seem to match the media reports, however there is a likelihood there is/was an informant and then there's Marquez.

    Hard to reconcile all the useful info the FBI received from Marquez and him not either a UC/informant or that he may have brokered a future plea deal for cooperation.
     
  16. LietKynes

    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    news.yahoo.com/california-shooters-visa-request-missing-key-information-politician-165725643.html
    "After reviewing Tashfeen Malik's immigration file, it is clear that immigration officials did not thoroughly vet her application," House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte said in a statement.

    Well ? Is something going to change, then ?
    Will anyone be held accountable or is this just an "oops" situation ?

    And to think the people who were murdered had actually given this couple a baby shower in the weeks before the shooting. Nauseating.

    Good comment by a poster with the initial "D" below in the yahoo link.
    To paraphrase : "... instead of depicting the couple alive and 'happy'... how about showing them deceased , and how a 'martyr' can end up ..."

    MOO as always
     
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    Mindmatters New Member

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    SoCal Terror Probe Exposes Marriage-for-Visa Racket

    "Federal authorities have charged Enrique Marquez with marriage fraud for his allegedly sham union with Mariya Chernykh, a Russian woman whose sister married the brother of terrorist Syed Rizwan Farook after first gaining residence through an earlier marriage. And of course, Farook’s own wife, Tashfeen Malik, who was killed along with him in a shootout with police following their Dec. 2 attack, married her way into the U.S. under suspicious circumstances."

    Read more here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/19/socal-terror-probe-exposes-marriage-for-visa-racket.html

    and here: http://abc7.com/news/enrique-marquez-had-sham-marriage-to-russian-woman/1128754/

    and here: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-enrique-marquez-immigration-fraud-marriage-20151217-story.html
     
  18. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers Not today, Satan, not today.

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    Okay, so Marquez was marrying his neighbor's sister-in-law's sister? It sounds like a damn soap opera. A fraudulent, scary, stupid, deceptive, mess of a soap opera.

    When I think back to all we went through (pre 9/11!) I can't believe people are getting away with this.
     
  19. CARIIS

    CARIIS Typist Extraordinaire!

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    a BP gas station in Lee's Summit had 18-20 tanks stolen from outside cages last month. A CVS reported the same crime on the same night. Two weeks later another CVS in Independence was hit and 28 tanks were stolen from that location.

    I lov to BBQ --- 48 tanks aint no rib and chicken fiesta! Quite bothersome IMO

    http://fox2now.com/2015/12/11/dozen...olen-from-three-different-missouri-locations/
     
  20. CARIIS

    CARIIS Typist Extraordinaire!

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    that is a very good point.......wonder if they were going to pick him up for their big event?
     
  21. CARIIS

    CARIIS Typist Extraordinaire!

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    Hi Bravo

    that was my understanding as well
     

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