CA - 21 treated for burns as Tony Robbins' 2,000-degree hot coals firewalk goes awry

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  1. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Tony Robbins event ends in disaster as 21 people are
    treated for burns after walking on 2,000-degree hot coals
    (Daily Mail)
    more at link above and below

    San Jose: 21 people treated for burns after firewalk at Tony Robbins appearance (San Jose Mercury News)
     
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  3. LaLaw2000

    LaLaw2000 Louisiana

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    I learned at a very tender age not to touch or walk on anything hot.

    Seriously; I don't understand why people even try such a thing as attempting to walk on hot coals! Oh, me of little faith. I do not think I could ever get my head into such a state that hot coals would not burn.
     
  4. tarabull

    tarabull Life is a puzzle.

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  5. Sigh Sister

    Sigh Sister Active Member

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    I don't know much about Tony Robbins other than he's a motivational speaker. I think I saw him on Oprah once. Has he held these type of "events" before? Amazing what people can be persuaded to do. Crazy........
     
  6. Sigh Sister

    Sigh Sister Active Member

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    Never mind. Just read the link. Haha. He's done this before,
     
  7. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Go in fear of "motivational speakers," hot coals or not.
     
  8. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    Count me out, nothing would induce me to walk on hot coals. Mad, the lot of them
     
  9. SoBeCzar

    SoBeCzar New Member

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    If you can sit thru the video it is almost black and when the lady begins screaming she is laughing and screaming in triumph. This looks like BS. I dunno.
     
  10. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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  11. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    "It was just bizarre, man" deserves its place in the upper echelon of soundbites, along with "Don't tase me, bro!"
     
  12. sharkeyes

    sharkeyes Queen of Swords and Cups

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    Amazing how some people can be manipulated into doing something that can harm them; remember, the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.:waitasec:
     
  13. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Okay, I take (some of) it back. There was one motivational speaker I really liked - Zig Ziglar. (What a name!) While I never paid one thin dime to hear his presentation, I interviewed him for my college newspaper. He could have treated me like a small-town undergrad nothing (which is what I was!) but he didn't. Amazingly polite and - dare I say - genuine. I owe him this. "Thanks, Zig!"
     
  14. tarabull

    tarabull Life is a puzzle.

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    Herding Cats New Member

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    The purpose behind this, and he's not the only motivational speaker who does stuff like this, is to learn that your limits are self-imposed, that you can do things that you don't believe are possible, and that you can take on challenges and not fail.

    I have not done Robbin's firewalk, but I've done repelling and zip line (at 13) down a mountain in a motivational course, and I have walked over shards of glass barefoot.

    One of the things I've taken away from both of those events was that the block was in my head...that, if necessary, I would walk over broken glass barefoot and survive. It gave me some serious level of confidence (as did skydiving) that helped me face 'normal' challenges, and even 'unusual challenges.' It does help some folks to break through fear barriers, and it's interesting how those barriers show up in everyday life.

    It's also not for everyone, and I would never ever do the hot coals thing.

    And I am so sorry for those for whom the firewalk has hurt badly. I'm not going to blame them, because it's a dangerous activity and there is always risks assumed when doing something like this...but there is NO reason for someone to have been left on the coals without assistance long enough to get second and/or third degree burns.

    There is a "right" way to do this stuff...and that doesn't seem to have happened. My prayers to those who have been hurt...may they heal swiftly, and without further damage...and may Robbins find what went wrong, and change that part of the program.

    Best-
    Herding Cats
     
  16. Ada

    Ada New Member

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    The frenzied chanting, in the youtube video from the OP link, really creeped me out. :what:
     
  17. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    From LA Times.......

    Participant Sahar Madani told Channel 2 KTVU that they were told walking on the coal could be dangerous but they needed to shift their mental focus. “Get your focus and attention away from that and look into the power within yourself and just focus on walking through the fire,” Madani told the station.

    Julia Wilson, another participant told the station: “He tells us to say, 'Cool moss, cool moss, cool moss,' and not look down and it’s amazing what your mind can do when you get it in the right state."

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/tony-robbins-hot-coal-walk-warned.html
     
  18. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    if you don't want 2nd & 3rd degree burns, don't walk through a fire

    yeah, I just had to type that out to make sure it wasn't me that's lost their mind
     
  19. LaLaw2000

    LaLaw2000 Louisiana

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    LOL, LadyL!

    * Smart lady, IMO!!!!!
     
  20. Fairy1

    Fairy1 No Country for Old Men

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    Seriously. This is not a "mind-over-matter" kinda exercise. Hot = burn. We learn this as small children. Duh.
     
  21. Nova

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    I admit I'm not an expert, but I think the problem is that there are tricks involved. Walking on broken glass may cut you or not depending on the type of glass used; whether your mental state makes a difference is scientifically debatable.

    Likewise, different substances burn at different temperatures and not all will harm human skin. (Anybody who has touched a marijuana flame v. a tobacco flame can testify to this. The former burns at much lower temperatures.)

    Something went horribly wrong here and, to me, the real question is why didn't anybody notice until 21 people were hurt seriously enough to require a trip to the hospital?!
     

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