Oh DEB I just had the feeling this would be very close to you, ugh. I know you are a popular person in your community and would know some of the families. Just having you stopping to post in the middle of all this makes me feel less anxious. OT Yes, it was so odd as we waited out the night together 2 years ago on Websleuths wondering if our homes were going to survive. Still trying to rebuild, so many road blocks still to overcome. My heart goes out to all the parents in Santa Clarita....gunshots at a school....too much unfathomable grief.