Discussion in 'Up to the Minute' started by wfgodot, Feb 17, 2013.
Altar containing human bones found in Pasadena back yard (Pasadena Star-News)
more at the link above
A lot of religions include some type of ancestor worship. Could this be involved?
I notice that they don't say who owned the property and whether or not it was occupied at the time of the discovery.
A bit more info:
video with this one; check out those statues: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Altar-Contains-Human-Skull-Bones-Coroner-191626461.html
While looking up the connection with Santeria and human bones I found an odd site:
Of course the bones could have been brought with them when they moved here, hopefully not taken from anyone's grave. Still looking what the human bones and connection to god(s) is, but got distracted by this store.
This article has a picture of the alter. ETA: scratch that, it is a video of the altar and looks like something you could find in any college town, hmmm...:
Here is a brief explanation of the reason for bones, just keep reading, it gets there on the next pages and explains both positive and negative beliefs:
http://books.google.com/books?id=Dg...EwBQ#v=onepage&q=santeria human bones&f=false
I'm finding loads of articles from all over the U.S. with similar stories throughout the years. I will not start posting those, lol.
Another google book talking about a mythological/religious (not sure that is the right word) character using a human skull and a ram's head:
http://books.google.com/books?id=FP...BDgU#v=onepage&q=santeria human skull&f=false
Sorry, I'm just fascinated by any and all religious practices and any and all findings of bones.
Another store, scroll to the end for the statues:
I love this stuff. We had a cool store like that here for years. I just liked walking in and looking around. It burned down, so unless the owner burned it, the stuff didn't work for him. Oh, a new one opened down the street from where I live now, I haven't had the curiosity I used to have to go in. Maybe I'll get the nerve this summer.
That sight is freaky. Unless donating one's body is a VERY popular thing in Haiti (which I doubt) I am guessing these bones are the result of grave robbing which is a big problem in some areas.
I wouldn't mind bones donated to medical research BUT bones robbed from graves in Haiti are just WAY TOO CREEPY!
Digging up graves and stealing the coffins (to reuse or resell them) is also popular. Photo of a coffin being stolen after the earthquake, guess they just dump the body on the ground or throw it back into the open crypt.
It's really not that far removed from the Catholic and Orthodox practice of venerating the relics (bodies, bones, bits of hair, clothing, etc) of saints. Often the relics are placed on an altar for the public to venerate. The last time we had a relic come through our church it was one of the (bloody) hand coverings of Padre Pio (recently sainted priest who bore the stigmata on his hands), and in addition to being venerated at one of the side altars, one could also have the priest give a blessing while the relic was touched to one's forehead.
Relics are also traditionally placed inside the altar of a church, often the patron of the parish.
I am fascinated by relics and such. They are a tangible connection to our forefathers and mothers in family and community.
www.luckymojo.com also sells all sorts of bones, mostly animal but some human. Other sites sell human bones too.
I doubt very much there is a crime here. I "throw bones" myself, but my set has no human bones in it, only animal bones.
I agree, I doubt if this involved a crime (by the practitioner using the alter). Having said that I suspect there is a GOOD chance a crime was involved before the bones were sold or changed hands.
Just thought I'd add that the tradition for these practices come from the book of Acts, in which the mere passing over of the apostle's shadow or the touching of their handkerchief produced healing miracles. I found a book called Relics at goodwill once. Fascinating!
Currently have a third-class relic in a medal bearing the image of my namesake Saint Anthony hanging on a chain on the monitor as we speak.
Human Bones Found in Altar Bought on eBay (nbclosangeles.com)
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Ebay is definitely not a place I'd care to buy bones from. I don't think it should be allowed, how do you know what the origin of them is? Even with animals---I would hope the bones being sold weren't from an animal that was purposely killed for bones. That's bad ju-ju.
And not only relics, but entire corpses of incorrupt (i.e., not decayed) saints. I saw the supposed corpse of St. Silvan in the cathedral in Dubrovnik, bloody gash in the throat and all. A woman and her toddler were praying before it. By the time I was there (1999), St. Silvan was surrounded by glass, but not to protect the living or prevent decay; he was boxed in to keep the candle soot from blackening his skin.
I'm told you can take a guided tour of incorrupt saints all over Italy.
Of course, if you really believe in transubstantiation, I suppose leaving corpses to lie around in churches is no big deal.
Santeria is more common in South Florida. IIRC, they took their suit for the absolute right to sacrifice animals in violation of animal-protection laws to the Supreme Court and lost.
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