Found Deceased CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #13

[Gigi3]

I am so glad that Barb has been found and can be reunited with her loved ones.

Now we wait to find out more...

 

[Sillybilly]

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[wary]

Makes sense though that report was for Nov 29th and she apparently was found on Nov 27th. So we don't know whether Essex Road is involved at all, or just the rather vague location "in the desert near Essex," which presumably refers to the unincorporated community of Essex.

Essex, San Bernardino County, California - Wikipedia

Or could the person who found her have been based off of Essex Rd, and used it as a reference point, while the point of discovery might have been quite a distance away?

 

[wary]

Remains of woman lost in Mojave Desert last year found

This is a long way from where they supposedly were. Roughly a 10 hour walk.

No. “In the desert near Essex” covers a lot of territory, and could, in fact, be used to describe the exact place she supposedly was.

 

[wary]

My condolences to dbdb11, and any other family members who might be reading here. This has been a difficult and sad time for you.

 

[Seattle1]

If you do that walking, it says 2 hours, which isn't crazy?

Except I'm cautious here where driving the reportedly 6.8 miles takes 38 minutes!

The MOJA map indicates the road as unpaved 4x4 and 38 minutes is like 5.58 mph!

Seems to me this might be rough terrain either on foot or vehicle. MOO

https://www.nps.gov/moja/planyourvisit/upload/MOJAmap1.pdf

 

[dulcinea]

I am very literal and like to be precise, so maybe it's just me, but if the remains were found in MNP I feel like they would say that rather than in the desert near Essex. While saying in the desert near Essex does not exclude MNP, it just isn't as exact. I also don't know who this information is coming from, so they might just be relaying the little bits and pieces they have and can only provide a very general description.

 

[deugirtni]

Re: North on Google Maps

Go to Google Maps with the map you want to look at visible.

On the lower right side of the map, there is a column of buttons. Starting from the bottom, there are the following:

1. A little orange figure
2. A minus and then a plus for resizing
3. Show Your Location button thing
4. Globe View button
5. 3D/2D button
6. A circle with triangles, one red, one white in the middle pointing in opposite directions with arrows on each side. THIS IS THE COMPASS. Red is always NORTH. If you click on the arrows, the map will rotate depending on which way the arrow is pointing.

Some of those features are not always present, BUT 2. and 6. are essential features.

I don't see many of those features.
But let's not stray off topic.

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I also don't want to stray off topic, however I was also unable to find the 'compass' icon on my googlemaps. I use mozilla firefox. Screenshot below of what I see.

 

[Fukiyama]

I also don't want to stray off topic, however I was also unable to find the 'compass' icon on my googlemaps. I use mozilla firefox. Screenshot below of what I see.
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I poked around some more. You have to enable globe view to get the compass. And if your local versiou of Map doesn't include the globe view on the basic map, try satellite view first and then enable globe view. Hope that helps.

 

[stygianowl]

I am very literal and like to be precise, so maybe it's just me, but if the remains were found in MNP I feel like they would say that rather than in the desert near Essex. While saying in the desert near Essex does not exclude MNP, it just isn't as exact. I also don't know who this information is coming from, so they might just be relaying the little bits and pieces they have and can only provide a very general description.

"in the desert near Essex", while certainly vague, is arguably more exact than "in the Mojave National Preserve", which encompasses over 2,400 square miles.

 

[dulcinea]

"in the desert near Essex", while certainly vague, is arguably more exact than "in the Mojave National Preserve", which encompasses over 2,400 square miles.

My point is that MNP is a specific place, though a large one. In the desert near Essex could be any direction and expansive.

 

[stygianowl]

My point is that MNP is a specific place, though a large one. In the desert near Essex could be any direction and expansive.

True, MNP does have exact boundaries, & the desert near Essex doesn't. But I wasn't realizing just how vast the preserve is till I looked it up (about twice the size of Rhode Island!).

 

[wary]

My point is that MNP is a specific place, though a large one. In the desert near Essex could be any direction and expansive.

Okay, I don’t want to be unnecessarily rude to journalists—but the fact is—they’re not always all that accurate. This was an extremely short article, and I believe it already managed to incorporate one inaccuracy into its few paragraphs. (I believe that RT was the only source of info on his polygraph test.)

So, I think that the last thing we should be doing is trying to parse the fine points of exactly how a journalist phrased something. At least, it’s fine for us to do it, but we shouldn’t be expecting to accomplish anything by it.

 

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[Reasonable & Just]

I'm glad she was found, though I'm sorry she's not living it up on a beach somewhere in Mexico. Rest in peace, Barbara. If justice is needed, may it come soon.

 

[lonetraveler]

I'm a bit surprised that the word "body" is being used instead of "remains".

 

[Tallulah. Lakkey]

No. “In the desert near Essex” covers a lot of territory, and could, in fact, be used to describe the exact place she supposedly was.

I meant from where her husband said they were when she disappeared. I apologize for being unclear

 

[PommyMommy]

I'm a bit surprised that the word "body" is being used instead of "remains".

Not to be a stickler, but both terms were used if you include the title of the article. MOO

 

[lonetraveler]

Not to be a stickler, but both terms were used if you include the title of the article. MOO

Yes, you're right. I've reread and now see both terms being used.

 

[canteloupe]

I'd urge everyone not to read into the language and details of the sole news item until it is confirmed by the coroner/sheriff or reported by a second outlet.

I am not passing judgment on any particular news outlet, but rather emphasizing that different outlets have different editorial standards and different missions.

For me, a good rule of thumb is how often a paper/outlet makes retractions and corrections. This might seem contradictory, but it's actually the sign of an ethically sound editorial team. Everyone makes mistakes, even the Woodwards and Bernsteins of the world, but the real professionals own up and address them.