CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #2

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  1. MassGuy

    MassGuy On Time Out

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    True.

    There would be signs.

    There aren’t any.
     
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  2. GordianKnot

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    Unfortunately, I absolutely, positively agree with you that the likeliest scenario here is that BT is dead.

    In the absence of any evidence that she was ever in that location, I don't believe she was ever in that location.

    This means that something happened to her somewhere else.

    Where?

    And When?

    Here's one of my biggest questions right now: When was the last independent sighting of BT?

    JMO.
     
  3. MizStery

    MizStery Missing Pregnant Lacy P. brought me here in 2005

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    Razz you and I think alike. I was curious if she had cleaned out or transferred her 401k saving or cashed out her personal or one of their joint banking accounts. Or even contacted an attorney to initiate documents on division of their joint property. Perhaps she was going to have her attorney wait until she was safely in Hong Kong to file.

    :eek:Just interesting we both were on the same wavelength.

    MOO
     
  4. kkdj

    kkdj Well-Known Member

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    Ita. She could be anywhere. But I think she was alive in the truck or the cadaver dogs would have hit on it. I'm assuming they had cadaver dogs check the truck and the camper out.
     
  5. topockaz

    topockaz Active Member

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    I have a stick, so he had to learn how to upshift and downshift. Some of the turns you had to take them at 15 miles an hour. I told him its not very many people that can say that they learned how to drive on route 66.
     
  6. Twistinginthewind

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    Well, according to RT, 'they' were carrying a gallon jug of water, and a pack presumably within which was his camera, and maybe a cell phone. And BT had a beer in her hand (container it was in is unknown), and the key to their truck and camper was not with them, but hidden under a rock nearby the rig so that whichever of them returned first could get in to it.

    BT's attire, whether RT also was drinking a beer, what his attire was, or anything else is pure hearsay since LE has not issued any statements on any of that. They have stated that they searched for her within several miles of rough terrain with all resources at hand unflinchinly in and around the area where RT said she vanished for over a week in 90-120 degree heat in the middle of the desert. JMO.
     
  7. GordianKnot

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    One of the things that keeps niggling away at the back of my mind is the way RT baked the Vegas suggestion into the abduction theory he postulated.

    Does anyone have a sense of how long it usually takes LE to get the info back on cell phone pings/digital tracking data? Would they already have that in this case?

    I'm wondering about their route of travel that day, what time they departed, and whether there were any stops in that desert prior to the RV arriving at the site that became the locus for the search.

    I keep wondering if they stopped somewhere else in the desert that day...a spot where maybe the 2 of them arrived, and only 1 of them left. Somewhere between the location RT reported she went missing and say, Vegas, for example.

    JMO.
     
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    At this point I think that’s the best we can hope for at this point IMO so much time has passed and we don’t have a definite time of when she was last seen by anyone other than her spouse
     
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  9. RANCH

    RANCH United we stand, divided we fall

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    What signs would have to be found at the scene if Barbara was abducted?
     
  10. MassGuy

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    Her beer for one.
     
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    Is this a reference to “dark”
     
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  12. RANCH

    RANCH United we stand, divided we fall

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    Why? If she was abducted at gunpoint maybe she clutched onto the cup and took it with her.
     
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    There is no info to date, 10 days from BT vanishing, to answer any of these questions from RT, LE, MSM, etcetera.

    From what BT's family has said as posted here from a VI, she was 'alive' the week before she vanished, and had spoken to her very ill brother in Hong Kong before she and RT went on a camping trip and reassured her brother that she would be coming to visit the following week (last week) but may be out of touch for a few days before she left because she was going camping with her husband (presumably out in the desert). IMO based on upthread posts, but LE and MSM links that don't report what RT says and are independent are few and far between, IMO.
     
  14. MassGuy

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    Extremities tend to go limp in situations involving intense fear.

    Regardless, I’m not entertaining that idea.

    Some lady goes for a hike, her husband loses sight of her for a brief period of time, and some random abductor happens upon her.

    Naw.
     
  15. MassGuy

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    I was thinking more “Back to the Future.”:p
     
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  16. PaulR

    PaulR Verified Software and Computer Tech

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    An abductor could pick up the travel container.

    With the heat out, how long would any spilled liquid even show on pavement?
     
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    sorrell skye Well-Known Member

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    Let us keep sending life energy to Barbara just in case she's still alive.
     
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    Oh interesting. They basically say this verbatim in the German Netflix show “Dark”. Four episodes in is hard to get to, but after that, it is excellent.

    All is mysterious in the universe. Hoping the best for Barbra... wherever she may be
     
  19. RANCH

    RANCH United we stand, divided we fall

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    I'm not limiting myself like that.

    Just because there where no signs of an abduction that doesn't mean an abduction didn't take place. JMO
     
  20. MassGuy

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    I’m focusing on probabilities, not possibilities.

    I think it is far more probable than not that she was not abducted.
     
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