CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #3

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  1. Micheline

    Micheline Well-Known Member

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    I think that in general we can assume if someone keeps little love notes from his/her partner that is of their own choice.

    I also think if a woman always puts little love notes on her husband's pillow, that that is of her own choice, because of her being in a loving reciprocal relationship.

    Roberts calls her the love of his life, not many man say this about their wife, not even when are a suspect in their disappearance.
    He thinks she is so beautiful that someone would want to kidnap her.

    In every picture he has his hand around her, or she around him, even if there are people standing in between them.

    Robert: We tell each other how much we love each other every night before we go to sleep.

    I think this is genuine. IMO
     


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    Here's what I noticed when RT responded with an emphatic, "Absolutely not!" when the reporter asked him the question re: whether or not he had anything to do with his wife's disappearance:

    He gave a nod of the head when he made that statement.

    Not a shake of the head. A nod.

    So, my read on that is: his lips said one thing, his body language said another.

    Here's the link. Question is asked at the 1:50 mark:
    Husband of Woman Who Vanished During Mojave Desert Hike: 'I Just Want Her Back'

    JMO.
     
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  3. Micheline

    Micheline Well-Known Member

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    Maybe he forged them.
     
  4. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    I do recall from one of the interviews that he stated he was 10 - 15 minutes behind her. I don't have the link and don't have time to find it right now but FWIW that is my recollection.
     
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  5. Micheline

    Micheline Well-Known Member

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    Everything.
    "The street cameras when Barbara was last seen will lead LE to her", is a suggestion that Robert lies about everything and murdered his wife.

    Therefor I just wanted to insert his IMO feelings for his wife.
     
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    Stripehaven Well-Known Member

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    Not to pick everything apart but I’ll just note that “love of my life” is another thing a lot of perps say when interviewed on Dateline and such.
     
  7. mjp1228

    mjp1228 Well-Known Member

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    I still don’t think she ever made it to the desert. Or, if she did, it’s a completely different area than where the husband is saying. That might be husbands final destination. But I don’t think it was Barbara’s.
     
  8. kkdj

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    iirc, RT said he called 911 and it took them a couple of hours to get there. Dispatch has 3:26 for when a missing person call came in....or is that when they sent someone out?
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    I think it's when they sent someone out.

    dis·patch
    /dəˈspaCH/

    verb

    noun

    So, we need to know when that 911 call came in. I doubt it was noon because I don't think they would wait until 3:26 to send someone out on a missing person emergency call. I'll bet that 911 call was made closer to 3:25. So, how long were they out there if they were seen by the neighbors leaving at 8:15 a.m?
     
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    debbiegarcia36 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely! That is so curious!
     
  10. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    It could be genuine, but it's never really that easy to tell when you are on the outside of a relationship, especially from a few pictures.

    What might look like love can actually be more like obsession or control.
    The fact that he always has an arm around her in pictures can also be a sign that he is possessive of her.

    Her love notes to him may have been her own choice, but that doesn't mean she could not have been trying to reassure him of her love for him.

    We really don't have enough information to say one way or another, but just because he showed the media evidence of their love for one another does not mean that she truly was the love of his life.

    We also don't know what his idea of "love" is.
     
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    I'd be curious to know what time they left home that morning. According to Google maps, if they went the most direct way via I-40, the trip to Kelbaker/Hidden Hill Roads, with normal traffic, should have taken just over an hour and a half.

    So, for example, if he said they left at 7 am, only stopped to go for their 2 mile walk, and discovered her gone either noon or 2:30, then what happened in the span of all those hours between?

    And if the rv was caught on the only I-40 traffic camera at Havasu, was the amount of time between seen on that camera and departing home consistent with what it should have been?

    ETA: And, referring to the Havasu camera, if too much time had elapsed, then was there another stop he didn't admit to before he even got to Kelbaker?
     
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    dbdb11 Verified Family Member Barbara Thomas Case

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    I never had any reason to suspect they weren't completely in love with one another. I also had very little interaction with them in the grand scheme. The few day trip adventures I shared with them are amazing memories and I always felt inspired that they 'lived' in the desert for leisure.

    Sadly, in more recent years it's only been bad news, passing of my grandmother, sickness of my father, that has brought me together with them. At this stage I am praying for Barb's safety and hoping I am wrong in probing her husband's account of events.
     
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    “Not many men say this about their wife”. Where are these statistics. I have been married 30+ years and my husband tells me that I am the ONLY woman he has truly loved and definitely his soul mate. Add to this We have given each other notes over the years. It is not exclusive to RT.
     
  15. fabvab

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    Another angle...Perhaps she was placing those notes under his pillow because she was trying to repair and get a rocky relationship back on track. I'm a little younger than Barbara...and my love notes to my hubby would say..."thank you for not snoring so loud".
     
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    To me, the notes are a red flag. IMHO, in an abusive relationship, where the man is extremely insecure, a woman might do this as self-preservation. I don't know anything about them or their relationship, but his showing those notes gave me a sense of her unease. **I hope that doesn't offend anybody.
     
  17. whatizzinit

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    Curious about the “cave” RT mentioned. If they discovered it on this trip, since there is no confirmation they had been here previously, and were also headed BACK to the camper - would she not have had to pass him to go back to the cave? Seems odd he went and looked there. JMO
     
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    Good thought. I too am younger but very longer married. I have both written and shredded love notes in different seasons over time. Just how relationships go.
     
  19. fabvab

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    That was my gut reaction and first thought about the "love notes under the pillow". It seemed like a desperate act on her part.
     
  20. whatizzinit

    whatizzinit Well-Known Member

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    Same for me. Why immediately show off these notes? What is the intention- if you love someone truly, no need to try to prove it. Who knows.
     
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