CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #8

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  1. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    I'm going with no. 3.
     


  2. Leney

    Leney Well-Known Member

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    I understand the thought process with a staged abduction.
    What I am questioning is the fact that a vehicle had to be moving to abduct her.
     
  3. 10ofRods

    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    IMO, what changed is Barbara - she was now going to see her own family. TWICE within about a year or a little more. There may even have been financial reasons why no trip to Canada...since Barbara was flying to Hong Kong and staying in hotels there.

    Barbara was more independent. Their own dynamic changed.
     
  4. Jo in Calif

    Jo in Calif Well-Known Member

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    I'm going with #3 but changing it a little.
    He killed her elsewhere and left her body there.
     
  5. Kapua

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    Doesn't RT have a plane that he could fly to Canada at any time? MOO
     
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  6. Reasonable & Just

    Reasonable & Just United We Stand

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    <modsnip: referenced post was removed> Also, one other thing changed, if I understand correctly - Barbara had recently resumed contact with her son? This was from a post from our VI. I may not fully understand the context, though.
     
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  7. Twistinginthewind

    Twistinginthewind Well-Known Member

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    Yes, so them taking separate vacations could have been new as well. I thought I saw somewhere that he does have a current pilots' license, but even without one, no flight plans needed or tracking of private aircraft occurs in the US to any great extent IMO, but not sure about crossing the border into Canada. MOO
     
  8. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    Snipped for length by me.

    I think RT thought that she was not planning on coming back from the Japan trip to be with him. He wasn't about to let her go. Away from him, she would get the nerve to leave him. JMO
     
  9. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    It wasn't. Barbara travelled alone to Hong Kong for a family visit last year.
     
  10. bronbaby

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    would someone please point me in the right direction or post a link to the son's interview and / or RT's relaying of his polygraph examination? thank you xo
     
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    Kapua Well-Known Member

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  12. LAhiker

    LAhiker Well-Known Member

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    I suggest looking through the media thread -- it's only 3 pages of posts. the interview with the son would be fairly recent.

    AZ - AZ - Barbara Thomas, 69, Timeline, Media, Maps, *NO DISCUSSION*
     
  13. Twistinginthewind

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    By 'new' I was referring to things that were different in the last year (including last year when she took the first trip alone to be with her family, and commented to them how it had been such a long time since she had done anything without RT) ETA: within the context of their 13 years of marriage. Just pondering things that might have changed over time, like things they used to do (e.g., going to Canada every year) that they didn't do this year, or things they didn't use to do (e.g., taking trips without eachother) that they're doing more recently.

    MOO
     
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  14. Cherwell

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    I understand what you're saying, but it wasn't what I meant. Certainly it is a matter of coincidence and extreme bad luck for the victim. But I was thinking about it from the point of view of a perpetrator. Not one who plans to go out and snatch someone on a particular day or in a particular place, but one who takes opportunities as they present themselves.
    I don't want to argue about it, I know what I mean but I'm obviously not expressing it very well.
     
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    DBM.
     
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  17. PommyMommy

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    Our VI told us they were married in Nov 2006. There is a photo of their wedding in the media thread. Where are you seeing 2015? MOO
     
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    <modsnip: quoted post was removed>
    By my estimation, the maximum time that elapsed between the first time when Sheryl Powell was first missed and the latest time that Barbara Thomas could've been missed was approximately 2 1/2 hours, while the drive between the two locations is at least 4 3/4 hours. So it seems almost impossible that the same perpetrator could have been involved in both incidents. I discuss this in more detail in this post:

    CA - CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #6


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  19. dbdb11

    dbdb11 Verified Family Member Barbara Thomas Case

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    unless she was possessed, tripping on drugs, completely delusional or running in terror, she would have found the road imo. theoretically you are right, but she was not walking blindfolded with earplugs in. yes, they were in the middle of the desert, but they were still very near a road.

    eg... if you live near a coast it is quite easy to orient yourself based on where the coast is. if you are in relative flatlands, within a few miles of a road, and agile enough to reach high ground/climb boulders (which 69 yo barb was), you can find your way back to the road.

    i say this, because i also have been out in this and other deserts. and other wilderness areas. some places aren't easy to get lost, even for directionally impaired ppl. this was one of those areas, based on sroad's descriptions and photos, available in media thread, combined with roberts first-hand description of the area and recounting of events.... Barbara did not wander the wrong way by accident.

    sixth or seventh time i've felt the need to say so, and i say so quite firmly.

    sure, it is possible. but IMO this is not a believeable scenario. Even less believeable to me than random abduction.
     
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    I'm 5' 5" ish and that's what I weigh. I'd love to be about 5-7 lb less, but I'm considered slim.
     
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