CA CA - Bob Harrod, 81, Orange County, 27 July 2009 - #19

Discussion in '2000's Missing' started by SheWhoMustNotBeNamed, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    It was also stated that he brought coffee and donuts back for Bob. Many of us shared your concern and believed he tampered with the coffee.
     
  2. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    They were very unhappy about her return and sought legal help to prevent access to the house.
     
  3. travelbug

    travelbug Injustice anywhere a threat to justice everywhere

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    I would bet money that they were destroyed. Jmo
     
  4. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Well, well,well. I did notice msm did not indicate if the two people arrested and later released we're current or former residents of Placentia. That would make a big difference.

    Now to catch up on the thread.
     
  5. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    This. Thank you for your accuracy detailing the msm dpm linked.

    DPM, you look fantastic! Even Roberta looks better than she used to. Everyone deserves answers, and the truth about what happened to Bob the day he vanished hasn't changed.

    Praying answers are close, very close.
     
  6. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    It's in the video.
     
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  7. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    After 10 years, I think it's pretty clear LE is not going to clear up the timeline discrepancies. We won't learn the truth about the timeline until it's revealed at trial. Let's hope being ready for charges is right around the corner.
     
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  10. Cubby

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    Ffs, there is no msm indicating the family was cleared. The poster who made that statement embellished on what was stated in the video she linked. All the msm video said was that the two associates arrested and later released were not family.

    If the two persons arrested and later released are actually responsible for Bob's disappearance my heart is just going to break for all the anguish and animosity they caused between Fontelle and Bob's daughters. In fact, it really weighs heavy on my heart now. So unnecessary when time and energy......

    Damn it Bob, where are you? It's time you are found.

    I have lots more to say, but until LE names the two POI's recently arrested and released, we can't discuss them per tos.
     
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  11. MaryNo

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    BBM Yup, I knew that, and my point's been made. It's the kind of garbage this case has been flooded with since day 1. I believe it's part of the reason the police haven't been able to solve this case to this point. At every turn, when things begin to head a certain direction, blockades are put up.

    The anguish and animosity between the 2 families was there before Fontelle returned from MO. IMO it's why the family hasn't been cleared. $$$ is a powerful motivator in this case.

    Having heard the POI's are locals, I have a couple of things running through my head on this, but like you I'll wait.

     
  12. MaryNo

    MaryNo Well-Known Member

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    No matter how impatient we are to learn who these POI's are, and what was their motive, Fontelle must be beside herself to put Bob's killers behind bars.
    Tonight, I've been praying for Fontelle, and that justice comes quickly now.
    She's suffered long enough.
     
  13. Pipsissiway_Potts

    Pipsissiway_Potts Well-Known Member

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    Jumping off from your post, MaryNo, it suddenly occurred to me that the narrow window of time was intentional so as to establish someone's alibi. Meaning, Bob's disappearance was no accident, but a premeditated crime. The two individuals who were recently arrested and released, IMHO, were the actual perpetrators, who were paid by the true instigator of the crime. These POIs were interrogated and then released possibly due to lack of evidence and/or allowing them to stew about jail time, which is a great persuader as to giving up the name of the person who hired them. Again, the narrow window of time stands out to me, as though it was deliberate, making the crime "impossible" for someone in Bob's immediate circle to commit. How quickly could Bob move? Would he been able to walk out the back door and then (improbably) walk through some magical trap door? In my opinion, he didn't. MaryNo's post gave me a deja vu moment, as though I've seen this before. "Impossible" crime for so-and-so to commit because the person had receipts from a store or fast food restaurant proving that they weren't anywhere near the crime scene, when in fact, they hired someone to do the crime. Off hand I can't recall another case, but I've seen enough on ID, 48 Hours, Forensics File, etc., to say it has been done before, and most were caught because the hired perps turned over on the person paying them. In my opinion only, the perps were waiting for a signal from the real instigator of the crime that the "coast was clear" to go and get Bob. Given that two people could have entered the house, pointed a gun at Bob and made him come with them in less than fifteen minutes, IMHO that is what happened. Whether they tied him up, taped his mouth, or merely pointed a gun in his ribs and "walked" him to their vehicle, IDK. That would account for the lack of blood. The perps could have killed and disposed of Bob elsewhere. Or, Bob could have had a mental breakdown and simply walked away and disappeared. I haven't been able to get through all of the threads, and so I'm not familiar with the environs of Bob's house or how close his neighbors were. I'm assuming there are trees, outbuildings, a garden, etc, so he may have walked away without being seen if he had gone out the back. I just don't know, but I imagine someone on this thread knows the answer to this question. I just hope one day Bob will be found and the mystery of what happened to him will be put to rest.
     
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  14. Cubby

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    Bob's family took the person/s I believe were arrested and released to court after Bob's disappearance. There is no way they would have paid them to disappear Bob, and then later take them to court. Bashing Bob and refusing to answer basic questions, along with refusing to cooperate with police may have been what caused this case to be prolonged as long as it has.

    The time line isn't as narrow as it appears. There is conflicting information in msm about the timeline, and it appears to be purposely left muddied.

    Bob had very few associates, even fewer that are still in Placentia. Imvho, the love of Bob's money, more than Bob is the number one factor on why this case hasn't been solved. Hopefully, those not involved will finally decide to fully cooperate with LE to get this case solved and get justice for Bob.

    We never did find out if any neighbors had surveillance video.........
     
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  15. MaryNo

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    Their usage of the word, "associates", broadens the suspect list if we go with the "I'll give you ___ now, and ___ after the job is done." I'm really leaning heavily on this theory. I can even make a list of people, and motives for this, without family involvement. The problem is the pesky timeline. @Pipsissiway_Potts

    I can't figure out how the two who were sued could have done this given the shaky timeline, and their ironclad alibis. I can't figure out a motive for their involvement. And yes, I'd like to know why nothing showed up on security cameras, unless that neighborhood is so safe, there weren't any. @Cubby

    With that being said, I still bounce back and forth between these two theories.
     
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  16. MaryNo

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    @Laughing I brought this over, so maybe someone here could answer your question. I believe Bob is a good distance from his house, so for me this would be a good place to hide him. Others believe he's on one of the hills. I think Coyote Canyon continually came to mind back then, but I don't know why that came to me. I didn't even know there was a canyon by that name lol The name still sticks in my head.
    You said this location is over 2 miles from Bob's house.
    KCSO investigating skeletal remains found on Lost Hills Road
     
  17. Pipsissiway_Potts

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    Off subject, my nickname is Pesky. Kind of caught me off guard for a moment. :p

    Is it not known whether there were any security cameras, or did LE state nothing of interest was found on the ones that were present?
     
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    Strange, isn't it, that there's no camera footage? I'd forgotten all about this, until Cubby brought it up.
     
  19. Laughing

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    Well, this was quite a while ago, technology-wise.

    But I don't live in SoCal, either?

    Bob & Fontelle, thanks for Bob's service in the Marine Corps!
     
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  20. Cubby

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    Maybe the alibi's weren't as ironclad as we were led to believe. As for motive, anger at Bob for putting an end to freely handing out moolah. He was no longer a single man, and it would be inappropriate for a married man to be giving lots of money to another non family member. Perhaps he/she wasnt going to take no for an answer and got violent, after luring Bob out of the house. Go back and reread Paul Estes posts. I forget what user name he had here, but something he posted stuck out, imo, based on the most recent msm.
     
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